London power surge/bombing of underground

Posted by: Hawk on 07 July 2005

Not sure what to believe of whats being reported at the moment in the news but either way I hope that the casualty count doesnt rise terribly.

I dont want to speculate at this stage, i just feel bad for the unfortunates caught up in this disaster...

Hawk
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by Berlin Fritz
I'm still wondering how my Mother, who's not the youngest is gonna get home from exactly this area, where I think she's been for the last few hours, innit ?


Fritz Von I sent her to the Street to get herself some fresh pasties which she's inordinately fond of !° Roll Eyes
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by JonR
Hope she's alright Fritz.

My mum works in Kilburn, she's ok and her boss said she could go home, but the tube's still down and I advised her to hang around for a few hours until the situation stabilises.

Jon
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by Dev B
I think I was in a train under the bombs when they went off - I work in Liverpool St. I feel lucky today and my thoughts go out to those who have lost loved ones.

I'm walking home - 7 miles Frown
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by Berlin Fritz
Oddly enough the night before last I had a very strange dream about Oxford Circus Tube station, and yesterday was looking at my London tube map for the first time in some ten years. I'm not superstitious in any way, but last night whils't talking to my old girl in London as she was comtemplating cancelling her regular visit to Holland Park, because of all the Trafalgar Square crowds. I rang her back an hour later to mention my dream 'Honnist' but she'd already gorn aat, innit. I'm rather hoping she didn't
go to town this morning instead, but have a sneaky feeling she did ?

Fritz Von I'm thinking more about her being stuck in the middle of nowhere more than anyhing, such is life: Cool
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by domfjbrown
Looks like Al Queda after all according to this BBC item.

How typical.

As per usual, it all boils down to Dog again. Whilst I know most religious people including the majority of Islam followers won't condone this atrocity (Iraq wrongdoings aside), I can't help thinking that if religion was outlawed it'd solve more problems than it would create.

I guess if it WAS suicide bombers, they're now finding out just how merciful (or not) Islam can be - hope they have abestos underpants.
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by JonR
Just heard that my dad had already picked up my mum from work and she's now home safe.

Jon
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by Simon Matthews
Stayed put in our Marleybone offices and watched the horror unfold on the TV. Heard that a good friend of a friend has been hospitalised from smoke inhilation.

Going to walk home on foot now, taking a wide berth of Edgeware rd which is on my route.

Ken, of all people, managed to bring a tear to the eye. His speech captured my feelings about this City perfectly.

I hope that something was left behind by these evil bastards which will help the security forces.
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by Berlin Fritz
That's good news Jon, and thanks for your comments earlier too. I'm just sincerely hoping that no Neo-Con bright spark (ie, Cheynie, Rummy, Rice) don't see this as a way of attacking Syria or Iran. Bin bag has never been connected to Iraq, though strongly with Saudi, maybe some arses need to be kicked there a bit (Politically not Militarily) and be seen to be doing so, it's about time Washington showed some real displeasure in that direction, I digress, innit.

Fritz Von Heavy casualties being reported here, phew Eek
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by Geoff P
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Ken, of all people, managed to bring a tear to the eye. His speech captured my feelings about this City perfectly.

Fully agree...I think he put the key point which perhaps had not really entered our thoughts as such up to that moment. Effectively he said this was a completely indiscriminate attack on ordinary people from ALL ethnic communities in the world, living in London, including islamic muslims.

I have an empty feeling in my stomach which just will not go away!!!

regards
GEOFF
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by Polarbear
quote:
"Secret Organisation al Qaeda in Europe"


Are nothing more than a bunch of cowards.

My sympathies go out to anyone involved in todays attrocities.

Regards

PB
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by domfjbrown
quote:
Originally posted by Tarquin Maynard-Portly:
Its not God who is to blame, but those who purport to be his followers.


That's true - maybe I should have been a little less "dissy", but after years of having Catholicism rammed down my throat as a child, I find the whole religion thing leaves a very sour taste in my mouth.

If it's not religion, it's oil or money that cause "wars". It's all just so messed up Frown
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by Malky
[QUOTE]Originally posted by vampyriaerotica:
Really disgusted ........

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Tension and emotions are high, but let's knock the Islamophobia on the head right now.

I agree - please be careful with the scope of any responses posted.

Adam Meredith
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by domfjbrown
quote:
Originally posted by Malky:
Tension and emotions are high, but let's knock the Islamophobia on the head right now.


I think there's a BIG difference between people hating followers of Islam, and people venting tension on those who support an Islamic Jihad...

The scope of the comment spread outside what should be posted here.
Reactions are understandable but keep things specific please.
Adam Meredith
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by Malky
quote:
Originally posted by domfjbrown:
quote:
Originally posted by Malky:
Tension and emotions are high, but let's knock the Islamophobia on the head right now.


I think there's a BIG difference between people hating followers of Islam, and people venting tension on those who support an Islamic Jihad...

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Of course there is. This is not the time to be scoring political/religious points, but let's be careful to condemn terrorist actions rather than a religion.
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by Berlin Fritz
Fritz vOn You chaps who're going on once again fuelling non existant fires about Islam & terrorsism bore me intensely, try singing a new tune for once if possible eh ? Cool
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by Roy T
A reasoned account of what has happened via wikipedia.org.
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by sonofcolin
It makes no difference to me who did this. I don't think it makes any difference to the people who died either.

What a terribly sad day.
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by Berlin Fritz
When as many facts as is possible can be/are attained then maybe a reasonable account can 'Begin' to be corroberated, before then I can't see how anything other than informed 'speculation' can result, please tell me otherwise, as much as I do like that particular web-service, innit.

Fritz Talkin bollocks as per usual Big Grin
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by Berlin Fritz
quote:
Originally posted by sonofcolin:
It makes no difference to me who did this. I don't think it makes any difference to the people who died either.

What a terribly sad day.


The second part is true, & the first part is why America is not loved by many people in this little ole world Cool
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by Vik
Dear All,

Words of sympathy cannot gloss over this atrocity; only know that many like me from far away are shocked and saddened.

I was lamenting the sort of world I would be bringing children into. My wife quelled that by saying to not have children for reasons like these is giving into these monsters.

With deepest respect,

Viknesh
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by Berlin Fritz
Vik, that's very kind of you, though this is the price of Democracy unfortunately and something that your own Singapore may hopefully one day enjoy too ? though naturally without the terrorism aspect!

Fritz Von Telling it how it is Winker
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by sonofcolin
Fritz,

I guess your picking up on Location: DC. Well, locations can be deceptive old chap. Currently posting from home number 3 in Moscow.

I won't get involved in speculation regarding who does and doesn't like the US.

My point is that it really isn't relevant who caused this act today IMVHO. It appears to me to be some form of 'Blowback' and it saddens me that civilians are killed for political gain (regardless of who does it).
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by Stuart M
Coincidence that this was the first day of the G8 when some uncomfortable decisions for some countries would have to be made.

So things probably won't get sorted now.

Not content to kill the innocent that happen to be near their bombs but also impact millions of poor.

There are so many conspiracy theories that could be constructed around this.

But if this was done for so called religious reasons then I hope if there is a God they get justice for thier actions.
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by bhazen
That this should happen after the generous spirit of Britain, driving the Live 8 effort...my heart breaks.

What unspeakable acts.

My heart and best hopes go out to all in the UK, particularly those in London whose lives and sense of peace have been shattered by this atrocity.

I've walked the streets and green places of London, I love the city and its people...

Bruce
Posted on: 07 July 2005 by Berlin Fritz
quote:
Originally posted by sonofcolin:
Fritz,

I guess your picking up on Location: DC. Well, locations can be deceptive old chap. Currently posting from home number 3 in Moscow.

I won't get involved in speculation regarding who does and doesn't like the US.

My point is that it really isn't relevant who caused this act today IMVHO. It appears to me to be some form of 'Blowback' and it saddens me that civilians are killed for political gain (regardless of who does it).


I don't feel 'I'm picking up on location as you neatly put it old Buddy'. I put it as if the U.S. doesn't care who committed the acts (I don't refer to your private views here), they are perceived (and have been perceived) and will continue to be perceived. by many Europeans and British to-boot, etc, etc, around the world, as being perfectly happy to 'Unilaterally' attack any Goddam place they so wish, without any recriminations.

Fritz Von I think that's a fair argument personally, over to you Columbia, if you wish to respond (Diplomatically of course)

PS, I recall a certain Homeland atrocity in Oklahoma bring swiftly and embarrassingly swept away, just imagine if that had been outsiders, just as if today’s bombings in London turned out to be God Forbid IRA, it certainly would matter who did it, and it would matter a lot