serial numbers

Posted by: billyvaller on 18 November 2003

does any one have experiance of buying naim gear with no serial numbers....;originally owned by staff at naim...apparently they can self build what do you think would quality be as good as retail? maybe it would be better?

[This message was edited by billyvaller on TUESDAY 18 November 2003 at 20:56.]
Posted on: 18 November 2003 by MJSM
Billy ??

I spoke to Shiela in the servicing department about this only yesterday, so far as she is concerned, there's no problem - just as good as retail (not sure about the self-build).

Apparently Naim employees get a fairly substantial staff discount (good on em), so there would be little reason to self build (IMHO).

Mike
Posted on: 18 November 2003 by billyvaller
i think they may self build when they join the firm.like a 'hands on' introduction.....kind of 'in at the deep end' i think its an option....could you ask your contact this please
Posted on: 19 November 2003 by Bosh
I seem to remember Paul S saying that although there was no serial no. on the box, there was one on the circuit board.

If my recollections are correct then the provenenace of these units can be checked directly with Naim
Posted on: 19 November 2003 by ChrisG
I have an 82 pre that I bought some years ago it's an ex Naim employee unit, it was sold to me by a dealer and was brand new with warranty etc etc and packaging. I saved some money and it's absolutely superb.

It was a sound deal!

Chris
Posted on: 20 November 2003 by Steve Bull
I bought an employee-build NAT03 a while back. My only concern was for the future - should I need to sell it on myself or an insurance claim might have looked a bit dodgy if claiming for kit without s/numbers. The seller anticipated this and gave me a copy of his original staff sales receipt. I'm very happy with it and bought it at a useful discount from the usual going rate for a NAT03 - hestitate to use the word 'cheap' where NATs are concerned!

And no, I'm not going to say how much the seller actually paid for the item himself!

Next stop, Mr Ron Smith for an aerial upgrade...

Steve.

It's a grand old team to play for...
Posted on: 21 November 2003 by billyvaller
steve bull
do you think quality could suffer with employee build.do you think they could use old bits inside or do you think they could make it even better than normal?. does anyone else know about this?
thanks for reply
Posted on: 21 November 2003 by JohnS
That makes me feel a lot better about my 82, I bought it from a guy in London (eBay!) a year or two ago and when I got it back from being converted to 110v by NANA I noticed there was no S/N. I was feeling bad cos I thought it had been stolen and I was building up all sorts of bad karma.

Now at least I can offer this explanation when I trade it in to get my 52 or 252 or whatever.

-John
Posted on: 21 November 2003 by Martin Payne
John,

NANA would have checked serial numbers as a routine part of any service. If they were happy, so should you be.

cheers, Martin

E-mail:- MartinPayne (at) Dial.Pipex.com. Put "Naim" in the title.
Posted on: 22 November 2003 by quickie
What's the reason for not putting any serial number's on the rear of the unit?

Paul.
Posted on: 22 November 2003 by welshmark
Hi

For what it's worth I would expect so called 'self built' equipment to be if anything as good as if not superior to 'off the shelf' equipment.
The staff member would spend quite a bit of time selecting the highest spec components and then ensuring the build was spot on.
The staff member in question gets top notch kit whilst benefitting from understanding how the whole thing works.
So expel your paranoid thoughts and enjoy what is highly likely to be a sonically superior product.

All the best

mark
Posted on: 22 November 2003 by quickie
What are the serial numbers Patrick? Wink

Paul.
Posted on: 23 November 2003 by Steve O
The substantial staff discount mentioned by "MJSM" in fact relates to these self build units.

They differ only in that the casings for the electronics (or cabinets in the case of speakers) are "B" stock. Everything else is retail quality.

At least that's the way I understand it.

Steve.