Attn ROTF

Posted by: JoeH on 14 June 2007

In the Piccadilly Virgin megastore yesterday, I heard what I thought were the opening notes of HMHB's 'Sensitive Outsider', but it turned out to be a prog rock/HM track by some shouty Americans. Now, did they 'borrow' the riff from HMHB, or vice-versa?
Posted on: 14 June 2007 by Guido Fawkes
Hi Joe - interesting observation/question?

I'm a sensitive outsider,
And I want the whole world to know.


BTW

That's not Enya
That's not Enya
That's not Enya
That's not Enya


The bit that goes da di di da di di da di di da dum da da is from Bonanza, of course. I think the opening riff is derived from the Bonanza theme as well as the more obvious musical reference at the end of the song.

Surely Sensitive Outsider has one of the best uses of the Jew's Harp that I've ever heard.

Sorry but I'm not up on American prog rock/HM so not sure which track you heard that sounds like Sensitive Outsider. However as we know HMHB are not adverse to incorporating stuff into their music from various sources - does Nigel listen to Heavy Metal/Prog-Rock? I know he thinks Aqualung is a good album and his brother was/is a big ELP fan. I also infer he's not keen on Louis Armstrong's Wonderful World, but even men with steel hearts like to see a dog on pitch.

Fretwork Homework has a stunning HM riff in it and a great guitar solo (albeit quite short) - I'm sure they would have won any Battle of the Bands.

Sorry I can't answer the question.

Isn't it time for another album ........ if it's as good as Some Call It Godcore then we'll be in for a treat.

ATB Rotf
Posted on: 14 June 2007 by Guido Fawkes
A colleague thinks it might have been The Actual Tigers in which case they copied HMHB.
Posted on: 14 June 2007 by JoeH
Thanks for that. It did sound like a note-for-note copy, rather than just vaguely like HMHB's opening riff.
Posted on: 14 June 2007 by Guido Fawkes
27 Yards Of Dental Floss is a little bit quo like.

I also think With Goth On Our Side sounds a bit Dylanesque, but with much better lyrics Big Grin

And my name - it is Dai Young,
I'm the king of Welsh goths.
The village I come from
is near Abersoch.
I was brought up on Bauhaus
and black bedroom walls
and I had my first "snakebite"
when I was in halls.

Now the graveyard is calling,
the sky's getting greyer.
I'll drink the warm blood of
the borough surveyor
and I'll murder the verger,
I've seen how he gorps
and I'll write on his headstone
"Here lies Jones the corpse".

Now, my overweight girlfriend
she sits and she quips.
Her mother's convinced she's
communing with Imps.
Her brother's alright though,
he's a good lad, is Wilf.
'cause he's into Placebo
and Cradle Of Filth.

At my gig up in Butlins,
the Redcoats complained.
They tried to remove me,
with bottles, they rained.
But for the first time in history,
I didn't run and hide.
and the Scousers in shellsuits
had Goths on their side.

Now this land of my father's,
it don't suit my needs.
I'd rather be some place,
like Bradford or Leeds.
Where the Gipton teenagers
could meet in my shed.
For advice on Mascara
and all things undead.

Now, my left index finger
is nine inches long.
It's harbouring over
a world that's gone wrong.
Ask me to Prestatyn (press that in),
and that's what I'll do
and we'll all die together
and "Dylan" can't sue.
Posted on: 14 June 2007 by Guido Fawkes
Hi munch

What's the origin of the tune for She's In Broadstairs?

Thanks, Rotf
Posted on: 15 June 2007 by JoeH
The opening of 'Whit Week Malarkey' is lifted note for note from the opening of 'Day After Day' by the Pretenders; even the lyrics are similar:

'Way up in the sky
Over the city, over Tokyo'
Posted on: 16 June 2007 by Guido Fawkes
quote:
Originally posted by munch:
Is it Echo Beach Martha and the Muffins?


Thanks munch - I can hear some similarities and I must admit this came to my mind, but ..... well it could be

Anyways click here to see and hear the wonderful Martha Johnson singing Echo Beach - probably the perfect pop record - it's up there with See Emily Play, Hello Goodbye and Save My Soul.

As you probably know I think This Is The Ice Age by Martha & The Muffins is one of the greatest albums ever made. Echo Beach is on Metro Music BTW, which is another fine album, but one you should never buy because there is a compilation called Far Away In Time that has every track from Metro Music and more ...
Posted on: 17 June 2007 by Guido Fawkes
Hi munch

I've never seen M&M live so they may not sound as good live as they do on record. The only live bits I've seen are on You Tube. I got disillusioned with seeing bands live towards the end of the 70s - either they did note for note renditions of the album or they played pretty awful sets (I saw Lindisfarne at Southampton and they were terrible and yet I love the albums). Most groups just got too loud for me though.

As for She's In Broadstairs - the HMHB web site says

quote:

A remarkable resemblance to the way in which Squeeze's Slap and Tickle is constructed, complete with inane rhyming. 'I get my A to Z out' is possibly a reference to Difford & Tilbrook's habit of dropping London place names into their lyrics...

She's In Parties was a hit for Bauhaus in 1983.

Broadstairs on the Kent coast between Margate and Ramsgate.

Filey North Yorkshire coastal town between Scarborough and Bridlington.

"I'm on another planet" Another Girl, Another Planet by The Only Ones, 1978, spings to mind.

Isle of Thanet is the area of Kent where Broadstairs is located.


Not sure if that helps

All the best, Rotf