Post your LP12 tweak.

"Strip it down completely and replace all the nuts with good quality brass items instead."

Whats wrong with the supplied nuts, and what does it do for the sound?

Try this under the Linn.
Take off the base board , fit the 3 feet, wood hard rubber, whatever then put it on a Audiophile base platform ontop of a,RDC platform , the double thickness is best but the cheaper one layer one is still good, on top of 3 RDC cones or pulsar points in place of the shelf of your stand , assuming its MDF or the like .It may work on top of Mana or Naim stand too , mine is on a sound org turntable frame .

This combo gives a much purer , fluid sounding turntable with lower distortion and beefy bass lines.The music sound like its painted in much more intense coluors , going back to the standard support turns the music grey.

Just take its bottom off!

(And screw the rubber feet back in)

I would have thought that a 12ga over and under would be the weapon of choice for Tramp hunting.

LP12 Tip...

Don't take advice about LP12 tweaking from anyone. Just have it professionally set-up or, if your feel up to it, download the latest Linn Set-up Manual from Tony's site and follow the instructions to the letter. But hey, don't take my advice either.

Of course if it is fitted with a Trampolin, then by all means remove the offending part but, rather than shooting it, consider auctioning it off on e-bay to some Topica Linn list posting insomniac with a PayPal account and use the proceeds to buy a fresh hardboard base and proper Sondek feet.

Craig
PS. "brass nuts"? "difference was like a double service"? Give me a break.

Hi LK:

I can see where brass may cause a change (for better or worse) in areas such as under the spring support washers and such, but in places like the main suspension bolts, where they're held to the you top plate you really need the tensile steel nuts, as brass will strip before it gets tight enough.

Now for my tip, but before proceeding, are you sure you're anoraky enough for the Anorak Club? Yes? Read on.

Take a piece of 3/4", 7 ply board, cut it to size, cover with an auto sound absorbent sheeting such as Dynamat and hang from the ceiling with 3 plastic coated steel wires (like washing line wire). Use turnbuckles for levelling. Cut an appropriate hole in the shelf to allow for in situ suspension adjustments etc.

There is simply no comparison between this method of isolation and any other I've heard so far. If you want to dial in the sound a little more to your preference, then experiment with different feet as suggested by jonni. At this level of isolation, feet changes make a BIG difference, mostly I suspect because they're changing how energy is leaving the deck, and you can now hear that more clearly because there's bugger all going back in to confuse the issue.

Best Regards,
Mark Dunn∂

I do my own set up .Its the best way to make sure everything is right, even experienced dealers miss things out.
Then again if you dont know what to do go for it , but it is deffinatly worth any Linn owner finding out how to do it themselves.

Make sure it's properly set up - put it on a good shelf - leave it alone!

For gods sake Mark are you hanging your expensive LP12 with clothes wire from a ceiling?

Get your head read.

I don't think so.You can leave it alone if you like but if you want the best sound theres a lot more to be had out of the thing.Some changes will effect the balance of the sound, in which case you may have to adjust speaker postion or tracking force to get the full effect.some people may just like a blurred , fuzzy sound.But the deck as it comes is not a sacred idol to be worshipped and adorred only to be set up by the local Linn Dealer with his magic skills and vodoo.
If you learn about the deck there are weeknesses that can be sorted with a little ingenuity.

I'm all for leaving it alone!

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If you learn about the deck there are weeknesses that can be sorted with a little ingenuity.

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Please amuse us with a list of these weaknesses.

TIA,

Craig

Hi garyi.

You wrote:

>For gods sake Mark are you hanging your expensive LP12 with clothes wire from a ceiling?

Get your head read.<

I followed your advice today but the report form from my specialist was blank. What does this mean?


Craig:

Some wort hwhile items that dealers often miss are:

a. Removing the swarf from the armboard holes that attach it ot the subchassis.

b. Following from (a) above, put a single small drop of wood glue ('Elmers' in the US) in each hole just before asembly. It stops t hose dinky little screws loosening.

c. File the subchassis back to bare metal at the small pre-drilled hole where the earthing wires attach.

d. Following from (b), solder multiple earth wires together before connecting.

e. If you have a Linn arm, the s upplied arm lead usually has a grounding spade at the phono plug end. Many are crimped and not soldered. Solder it. The difference this makes to the noise floor is quite audible.

Best Regards,
Mark Dunnµ

All these have happened to me.

1.Arm in the wrong place (this is with a non-Linn arm)
2.Two bolts that hold the top plate to the wood surround not tight enought, which has a large effect on the sound, although they should not be overtight.
3.Arm lead not dressed right, too tight or too loose.

There are others I can't remmeber.These problems do not have to be due to neglect by your dealer its just that they are constrianed by time and also don't have to live with the thing themselves so are not so inclined to check everything.

Dealers are people too you know.

The Linn deck itself is not perfect and suffers from many "problems", of course some might like the effect these have on the sound.

some "problems".
1.Lack of drive stability due to suspention and twisting motions.
2.Poor motor fixing mount.
3.It has 4 feet, whatch that rocking.
4.Plater doesn't sit properly on inner plater(very hard to achieve, Rega p9 uses raised ridges)
5.Arm board fixing not ideal.
6.Ringing subschassis.
7.Felt mat.
8.Lingo has two power switchs, and lots of connections also interfers with other equipment.
9.Just not very rigid schassis, two many different parts that need screwing into each other.

That will do for now.
Still a nice deck though.

Forgot this one , and its one many dealer forget too.

Your linn belt has four sides!
3 are wrong , only 1 is right.This is because the belt is only ground on one side and in one direction.
You can find the right side by listening, but also by feeling the belt with your hand (although you will get oils from your hand on the belt)
Find the smothest side by rubbing your hand along the belt, then on that side only find in which direction your hand slides past easier.
This is the right way.
Using listening test to back it up you will find the correct side gives a smother , crisper sound with better bass less surface noise and more dynamics.
Happy listening