God Save The Queen!
Posted by: Rasher on 13 July 2007
When I was a young lad just after WW1 the cinema was pretty new (moving picture house). It was scary at first because we believed that these images were magic, even though they were silent, but that aside.
They played the National Anthem and we would all stand, sing and salute, and no-one ever, or would want to ever question it. We just did it. It was what everyone did. I think it's disgraceful that we don't do that at every event anymore, and at greeting anyone in the street for that matter - I do!.
I think everyone that works for the BBC should be locked in The Tower for trying to make our beloved Monach look ridiculous.
I think we should all take a moment to now stand together, salute, and sing the National Anthem.
Come on now, I can't hear you at the back.
Posted on: 15 July 2007 by Deane F
quote:Originally posted by Mick Parry:
This is total brain dead drivel.
The answer might be not to post on this thread, Mick.
Perhaps there is something else here that might interest you enough to inspire your contribution...
Posted on: 15 July 2007 by Chris Kelly
quote:Maybe this is an opportune moment to disband the BBC.
God. Would there be life after the Archers?
Posted on: 15 July 2007 by Malky
quote:Originally posted by Deane F:
So Mick, you don't consider it a waste of the world's finest hifi company's facilities to discuss which brand of car/in-car-navigation-system/coffee machine/coffee cup/secondhand Porsche/ad nauseum you should spend your money on?
Let's not forget forced rhubarb.
Posted on: 15 July 2007 by Mick P
Malky
Forcing rhubard improves the quality of the food you eat. This drivel improves nothing.
Regards
Mick
Forcing rhubard improves the quality of the food you eat. This drivel improves nothing.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 15 July 2007 by long-time-dead
quote:Originally posted by Mick Parry:
Those are sensible topics and we as consumers benefit.
Disbanding the BBC or the criticism surrounding the BBC is an incredibly sensible topic for debate.
It is the ultimate taxation through enforced purchase by law.
Paid for by a licence that is enforced if you have equipment CAPABLE of receiving the signal rather than electing to watch the output through personal choice makes the BBC totally valid for criticism or debate.
We do have a choice on other items........
Posted on: 15 July 2007 by Mick P
LTD
I agree the topic is sensible but the contributions are absolute tat. This is the Naim forum for goodness sake.
Regards
Mick
I agree the topic is sensible but the contributions are absolute tat. This is the Naim forum for goodness sake.
Regards
Mick
Posted on: 15 July 2007 by u5227470736789439
Absolutely right ltd, and the BBC has very particular responsibilities because of its unique funding position. No doubt, like hereditory peers, this will eventually be changed to something else. Whether this will improve things is one to at the least to debate.
On the other hand, though the BBC's agenda does from timee to time slip from perfect balance, and I suspect I am not alone from thinking these slips are usually somewhat to the left of centre politically when they happen, I do think that it is good that we don't have the agenda of a big wealthy owner enforced, such as a Rupert Murdoch or a Conrad Black bring or used to bring to the medium of their respective newspapers.
We at least know the BBC is a fairly liberal organisation which occasionally slips left, but it is not subject to the views and interests of big capital at least. How to finance it in the future, and to what extent it needs to compete in areas like pop music broadcasting [or even running classical orchestras] in future are a reasonable areas for consideration. My view would be that they only should retain Radio Four and disband the rest with possible exception of certain local Radio srvices [but by no means all], and maintain one serious TV channel taking the best of Two and One as the basis and concentrate on much less broadcasting of significantly greater quality. What quality is is another debating point, of course!
Times have changed very much and the question of watching Ammerican Soap Operas ans Drama Series is hardly one of supply any longer given how many channels are now available. I am not sure the license needs to be nearly as high as it is, or the broadcasting remit nearly as large. The best of the BBC is its News Service, and that is in my view the part thast should build on its great history and actually attempt to improve and grow over time, its emhasis being on completely serious and straight reporting.
Long may the BBC continue to plough its furrow, and long may we debate its occasional lapses and direction in the future.
ATB from Fredrik
On the other hand, though the BBC's agenda does from timee to time slip from perfect balance, and I suspect I am not alone from thinking these slips are usually somewhat to the left of centre politically when they happen, I do think that it is good that we don't have the agenda of a big wealthy owner enforced, such as a Rupert Murdoch or a Conrad Black bring or used to bring to the medium of their respective newspapers.
We at least know the BBC is a fairly liberal organisation which occasionally slips left, but it is not subject to the views and interests of big capital at least. How to finance it in the future, and to what extent it needs to compete in areas like pop music broadcasting [or even running classical orchestras] in future are a reasonable areas for consideration. My view would be that they only should retain Radio Four and disband the rest with possible exception of certain local Radio srvices [but by no means all], and maintain one serious TV channel taking the best of Two and One as the basis and concentrate on much less broadcasting of significantly greater quality. What quality is is another debating point, of course!
Times have changed very much and the question of watching Ammerican Soap Operas ans Drama Series is hardly one of supply any longer given how many channels are now available. I am not sure the license needs to be nearly as high as it is, or the broadcasting remit nearly as large. The best of the BBC is its News Service, and that is in my view the part thast should build on its great history and actually attempt to improve and grow over time, its emhasis being on completely serious and straight reporting.
Long may the BBC continue to plough its furrow, and long may we debate its occasional lapses and direction in the future.
ATB from Fredrik
Posted on: 15 July 2007 by Jet Johnson
.....2007 and we are STILL worried about how the Queen may appear on a telly documentary?????
....**** Me Pink!
Viva la Republic!
....**** Me Pink!
Viva la Republic!
Posted on: 15 July 2007 by fidelio
this is rather an entertaining thread.
i, as an american, and a leftie at that, would be dissappointed to see the windsors go. but that's a totally irrelevant opinion. you fellows will do whatver you do but there is something grand about a constitutional monarchy (even though yours is unwritten, it's at least as good as ours in that being written seems to just lead to results-oriented moronic legal opinions). seems tradition does amount to something, and in the case of the u.k. the democracy did develop under the tutelage of the monarchy. it also seems irrelevant as to what the queen or king is like personally (except as gossip fodder), as long as they're not slaughtering the help or something. i suppose it would be a little odd if they weren't a bit snooty!
but if you were to go really conservative and dump the bbc, we have plenty of great reality tv here, including paris hilton, and lots of great freeway car chases, available for syndication.
best, fiddy
i, as an american, and a leftie at that, would be dissappointed to see the windsors go. but that's a totally irrelevant opinion. you fellows will do whatver you do but there is something grand about a constitutional monarchy (even though yours is unwritten, it's at least as good as ours in that being written seems to just lead to results-oriented moronic legal opinions). seems tradition does amount to something, and in the case of the u.k. the democracy did develop under the tutelage of the monarchy. it also seems irrelevant as to what the queen or king is like personally (except as gossip fodder), as long as they're not slaughtering the help or something. i suppose it would be a little odd if they weren't a bit snooty!
but if you were to go really conservative and dump the bbc, we have plenty of great reality tv here, including paris hilton, and lots of great freeway car chases, available for syndication.
best, fiddy
Posted on: 15 July 2007 by u5227470736789439
Dear Fiddy,
I am a tremendous supporter of the BBC! I even like its political leanings, even if they don't follow mine very often. I would be alarmed if such a vital organisation saw the news and current affairs in exactly the way I see them! Something would be wrong if it did! Basically the BBC has a marvelous way of peeving what ever government we have, and with a vengance on occasion, which can only be healthy!
Some organisation of national significance has to stand up to the gov't given that as an electorate we only get to vote every four or five years, and it is even becoming illegal to demonstrate anymore! I see the BBC as in many ways being our best guarantee that a dictatorial government would never succeed in clinging to power without reference to the people of our country. That is how important it is in my view.
I say, "God Save The BBC!"
ATB from Fredrik
I am a tremendous supporter of the BBC! I even like its political leanings, even if they don't follow mine very often. I would be alarmed if such a vital organisation saw the news and current affairs in exactly the way I see them! Something would be wrong if it did! Basically the BBC has a marvelous way of peeving what ever government we have, and with a vengance on occasion, which can only be healthy!
Some organisation of national significance has to stand up to the gov't given that as an electorate we only get to vote every four or five years, and it is even becoming illegal to demonstrate anymore! I see the BBC as in many ways being our best guarantee that a dictatorial government would never succeed in clinging to power without reference to the people of our country. That is how important it is in my view.
I say, "God Save The BBC!"
ATB from Fredrik
Posted on: 15 July 2007 by BigH47
quote:the democracy did develop under the tutelage of the monarchy.
the democracy did develop despite the monarchy.
Posted on: 16 July 2007 by fidelio
big h -
oh, allright, that's no doubt more accurate. i don't know how i assumed the role of monarchy apologist, but there was a "give and take" over the centuries (as when they took chuck's head), a sort of balance, which would be gone forever if liz and co. were sent packing. king harry is better than some brain-addled twitty dictator w/ a phony accent, crooked advisors, a phalanx of thugs, and sickeningly false populism, no??
rgds. from l.a.
oh, allright, that's no doubt more accurate. i don't know how i assumed the role of monarchy apologist, but there was a "give and take" over the centuries (as when they took chuck's head), a sort of balance, which would be gone forever if liz and co. were sent packing. king harry is better than some brain-addled twitty dictator w/ a phony accent, crooked advisors, a phalanx of thugs, and sickeningly false populism, no??
rgds. from l.a.
Posted on: 16 July 2007 by Bob McC
Seeing as you put it like that er no, there's no difference!
Posted on: 16 July 2007 by Rasher
quote:Originally posted by Fredrik_Fiske:
I say, "God Save The BBC!"
I think that is what I was trying to say all along.
I've been watching Coast and yesterday the final How We Built Britain with Dimble Dumbleby. I think the licence fee is justified for those two programmes alone.
Interesting to hear Fidelio's comments as an outsider.
I don't buy the tourism argument as Diana was never as popular alive. Get rid of the royals and there would be royal fever over here and tourism would reach new heights. Open all the palaces and it would be great, so keeping them for tourism doesn't convince me.
Mick is only being uppity because he's a royalist.
I guess I could overlook the total waste of space that are the royal family, but holding the BBC to ransom because the old dear threw a wobbly and doesn't want it shown is just not on.
It's like Thatcher in the last weeks - complete denial that it's over.
Posted on: 16 July 2007 by Sir Crispin Cupcake
quote:Originally posted by Mick Parry:
LTD
I agree the topic is sensible but the contributions are absolute tat. This is the Naim forum for goodness sake.
Regards
Mick
...and let's not forget we're British!
Rich
Posted on: 26 July 2007 by fentontfox
What an anthem really makes the hairs on your neck stand up when it's sung at HQ.
Posted on: 26 July 2007 by PJT
quote:Originally posted by Sir Crispin Cupcake:
...and let's not forget we're British!
Rich
Not all of us, BUT strangely enough the New Zealand Statutes recognise God Save the Queen as a second official National Anthem.
Posted on: 27 July 2007 by Rasher
You're welcome to it. Tell you what....we'll pay you to take it away, and you can get the old dear thrown in for free.
(Hard hats on chaps...here comes Mick)
(Hard hats on chaps...here comes Mick)
Posted on: 27 July 2007 by Mick P
Chaps
Every country needs a head of state. We have the choice between a monarchy with all its inherent faults or a democratically elected President Blair with no faults.
Your choice !
Also cheap brain dead piss taking denotes a cheap brain dead mind.
Regards
Mick
PS To be frank, I would not trust some of you lot to be able to elect a president of a local potting shed club let alone a national President.
Every country needs a head of state. We have the choice between a monarchy with all its inherent faults or a democratically elected President Blair with no faults.
Your choice !
Also cheap brain dead piss taking denotes a cheap brain dead mind.
Regards
Mick
PS To be frank, I would not trust some of you lot to be able to elect a president of a local potting shed club let alone a national President.
Posted on: 27 July 2007 by Rasher
quote:
Also cheap brain dead piss taking denotes a cheap brain dead mind.
Yessir! That'll be me sir!
Posted on: 27 July 2007 by Deane F
Who needs a mind when you've got calculators, spreadsheet accounting and cost/benefit analysis?
Posted on: 27 July 2007 by BigH47
quote:Also cheap brain dead piss taking denotes a cheap brain dead mind
You can't leave the royals out of this can you.
Cooee Mick, Blair has left the building. Keep up man. There will be questions later
Posted on: 27 July 2007 by Rasher