Hi-Fi Show-Forum Sessions

Posted by: Don Atkinson on 19 August 2001

Will Naim have a 'closed' session again, at this year's HiFi Show, for members of this Forum?

I recall being aware of one last year, but not being a member, felt excluded by some sort of exclusive club

Cheers

Don

Posted on: 22 August 2001 by Matt Gear
where abouts is the show being held this year, and where can one book tickets / find info etc...?

cheers

matt

Posted on: 23 August 2001 by Don Atkinson
Juan Z,

Seems like you're right-absolute silence.

Does anybody have the courage to reveal the funny handskake so we can spot other Forum members at the hi-fi show.

Cheers

Don

Posted on: 23 August 2001 by garyi
some sort of Naim Geek sticker would be in order.


either that or I will be the one holding the red rose.

Posted on: 23 August 2001 by Mick P
Don

Unfortunately you won't be shaking hands with me. I normally get there most years but I am flying off on hols on the 15th.

Regards

Mick

Posted on: 23 August 2001 by Don Atkinson
garyi,

Perhaps

some sort of Naim Geek sticker would be in order.

or perhaps we just look out for 'sad old gits?' big grin

Cheers

Don

[This message was edited by Don Atkinson on THURSDAY 23 August 2001 at 21:27.]

Posted on: 23 August 2001 by Don Atkinson
Mick p,

I am flying off on hols on the 15th.

Somewhere warm and sunny I hope. Outside the school hols as well! Nice and cheap! should soon be able to afford that second 250 (plus SNAXO/HiCap) or those 135s.

Come to think of it, with the money for Mrs Mick's new car, you could invest in both, try them for a year, keep the ones you like and buy Mrs Mick a second hand car with the trade-in value of ones you sell. Might be better to explain this to Mrs Mick afterthe holiday.

Enjoy the holiday

Cheers

Don

Posted on: 23 August 2001 by Martin Payne
quote:
Originally posted by Don Atkinson:
or perhaps we just look out for 'sad old gits?' big grin

Cheers

Don



Er, Don,

it's a hi-fi show - lots & lots of sad gits all around!

Maybe see you there!

cheers, Martin

Posted on: 24 August 2001 by Don Atkinson
Martin P,

it's a hi-fi show - lots & lots of sad gits all around!

Maybe see you there!

Probably. Just keep your eyes peeled for saddest and oldest looking git wearing an anorak and '60s flares big grin

Cheers

Don

Posted on: 24 August 2001 by garyi
In a desperate bid not to look to sad and alone I will be dragging my girlfriend along with the promise of a nice lunch.

always a funny smell at these hi fi shows though.

Posted on: 24 August 2001 by Andrew Randle
quote:
In a desperate bid not to look to sad and alone I will be dragging my girlfriend along with the promise of a nice lunch.

Ah, you be one of those... wink I see them quite a bit. Those nouveau-riche lads dragging their girlfriends around the showroom corridors. He beginning to realise it was a bad idea taking her along, her wishing she was shopping and wasn't being gawped at by those in sad-case anoraks.

Then there's Jonathon Gorse, who's wife is more of a Hi-Fi fruitcake than he is! big grin Lucky lucky guy!

Andrew

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Posted on: 24 August 2001 by Mick P
Chaps

I have been to the London show about 4 times and to the Bristol show (which I think is better)about three times.

I think they are a bloody disaster and I tend to go on a Friday when its reputably quiet.

You can hardly see anything because one person is allowed to occupy less than one square foot of space, everything sounds bloody ropey and I get in and out as fast as humanly possible.

I attend business shows, as part of my job, which are trade only and business gets done. At these public shows, the poor reps have to put up with dozens of plonkers who aspire to a NAP500 with a budget of £50.00 spread over 5 years. You see dozens of nerds with about 200 brouchures in their hands and they will take all of 12 twelve months to read the bloody things.

If I was in the Hifi trade, I would seriously consider pulling out of the damm things. They cost a fortune to attend and I cannot see them generating any real sales. In order to pay for the show, the sales must generate enough profit to pay for the cost of attending, which will never happen.

Years ago, when I worked for Massey Ferguson, I had to help man a stand at the Royal Show. The trade days were fine. Sensible people asking sensible questions, shaking hands and doing deals.

Then for the last couple of days, the public came in. We did bugger all business and spent time answering stupid questions like... whats that lever for mate.

Public shows are an economic liability and I cannot understand why they are continued. It may be a nice day out for the punter but its an expensive pain in the ass for the trade.

Regards

Mick

Posted on: 24 August 2001 by ken c
At these public shows, the poor reps have to put up with dozens of plonkers who aspire to a NAP500 with a budget of £50.00 spread over 5 years. You see dozens of nerds with about 200 brouchures in their hands and they will take all of 12 twelve months to read the bloody things.

ahhh, so you saw me. next time, i'll put the brochures in a carrier bag.

Years ago, when I worked for Massey Ferguson, ...

when was that? early 80's massey fergusson was my support account and i used to visit them in, i believe, manchester(?) -- i cant quite remember the name of my contact there now. good times those were...

enjoy

ken

Posted on: 24 August 2001 by garyi
whats the point of having a great product if no one ever sees it? This may be a case of losing money for the hi fi chaps, but without the oportunity to touch things and see it in the flesh people won't buy, this is why the internet is failing so well.

we don't all live near hifi shops of good repute.

So the deal? Do your business in the first two days and promote your brand in the last two, I have a feeling all the dealers in the first two days would be rather naffed off if they buy all the equipment then nerds like us, (Or potential nerds) never hear or see them t want to go to the dealers and buy.


Geeking whats it all about eh?

Posted on: 24 August 2001 by Don Atkinson
Mick P,

Years ago, when I worked for Massey Ferguson

Years ago, when my uncle had a farm, he had two Massey Furguson tractors. Cute little, light grey ones that almost looked like toys. We used to drive them at the end of October, during potato picking week.

The sun always shone in the long summer evenings, the winters were always -30 deg with 5 foot of snow, Grandma's blueberry pie.........we used to gather round the old piano, harmonising good old country/folk songs, THEN we got electricity and a DANSETTE record player... and the rest is history

happy days

Cheers,

Don

Posted on: 24 August 2001 by Mick P
Ken

We had better keep this short and sweet or we will bore everyone.

I worked for MF 1979- 1982 and was Deputy Purchasing Manager of the European Parts Operation.

I had 3 offices, one at Coventry, one at Trafford Park Manchester and one in Paris.

The PM at Trafford Park was Bill Robinson who reported into me.

Bill was a tough old sod who always told me
that although I was his boss, he considered me a southern pratt with a mouth the size of the Mersey Tunnel. We got on well because he always looked after his team and fought like hell for them. My job was basically to streamline it and his was to keep it going.

Mind you after I sacked half of them, my boss sacked me, but I did walk out with a nice cheque in my hand. Such is life.

Who was your contact there......I may remember them.

Regards

Mick

Posted on: 24 August 2001 by Mick P
Don

The model you are refering to is the Little Grey Fergy. They were the best seller ever. Dirt cheap, dead reliable and went on forever.

They became discontinued because of safety reasons. They never had a cabin and that was not good if they tipped over.

Today they are a collectors item and there is a flourishing trade in providing parts to keep them going.

You often see them parked in the gardens of country houses.

I had more requests for cheap parts for those things than anything else, from farmers who suddenly became my friend, once they knew who I worked for.

25% were sold to Yorkshire farmers and the reason for that was never found. I think that northerners are rather carefull with money and they were dirt cheap to run.

They are nothing like tractors of today. There was a romance about farming in those days which isn't there any more.

All this from moaning about bloody shows.

Regards

Mick

Posted on: 24 August 2001 by Don Atkinson
Mick P,

25% were sold to Yorkshire farmers and the reason for that was never found. I think that northerners are rather carefull with money and they were dirt cheap to run.

His farm (my Uncle's) was just outside Durham!

The fronts reminded me of a smiling face, bit like Bedford trucks at that time.

Still, all this was long before I became a hifi geek and sad old git visiting hifi shows in an anorak.

Cheers

Don

Posted on: 25 August 2001 by P
I guess you just never know who's really out there do you?

Adios

P.

Posted on: 26 August 2001 by Don Atkinson
George L,

But when is the London show and where would it be held?

15th/16th September 2001 at the Nova Hotel, Hammersmith, London.

Will we see you there George ? big grin

Cheers

Don

Posted on: 26 August 2001 by Martin Payne
quote:
Originally posted by Don Atkinson:
15th/16th September 2001 at the Nova Hotel, Hammersmith, London.


I believe it's actually called the Novotel, unless it's been renamed very recently.

Martin

Posted on: 26 August 2001 by garyi
Get out at hammersmith station and follow the flies.