Bloody iPhone and O2

Posted by: Dungassin on 21 October 2010

I'm getting VERY annoyed. When I got my Pay&GO iPhone3GS from O2 I initially paid £10 per month into the account to get the free calls and free web bolt on. The balance gradually crept up to about £100. When the 12 month free web bolton expired, I cancelled it, and also stopped paying for topups, fully expecting the balance to last at least a year.

Since then the account has been bleeding money. I thought this was because SWMBO was using it to call our girls. The balance dropped to about £50 2-3 months ago. I told her to use the landline for her calls, and thought no more about it. Thinking about it, this was roughly when I stopped receiving the O2 text telling me my balance after each call or text message.

I only make about 3 calls a week from it - usually of less than 1 minute duration each, and send approx 1-2 text messages a day - never to more than 2 people at a time.

Yesterday (i.e.21/10/10) I started receiving text notifications from wap.02 telling me I had to have a balance of 17p or more to use their services. These identical messages were arriving every 10 seconds, and only stopped when I powered down the phone fully after spending 2 minutes repeatedly hitting DISMISS!

On checking my balance it said I had ZERO! I topped up with £20 made one 7 second call to our landline just to check the iPhone was working. On checking my account online a MyO2, it told me my balance was £18.53 - after one 7 second call? I checked my recent phone calls on the iPhone itself just to verify my recollection, and then opened Safari on the iPhone to check my browsing history - it was empty. Wifi was off, and I closed Safari withing 10 seconds of starting and before the homepage even loaded. Now it tells me my baance is £15.64! Surely they can't have charged me £3 when I didn't even get access. There is obviously something very wrong, and I have emailed their support people to sort it out. I expect by morning my balance will be down to zero again at this rate.

Just for info - Roaming is off, Location services are off. I only turn these on for the rare occasions when I actually need them. 3G is on.

Bloody O2! Frown
Posted on: 22 October 2010 by Mike Hughes
Always found O2 to be excellent. Can't help but thinking it's either a software blip on their side; that you've maybe been slipped onto the wrong deal etc. However, the description of a balance evaporating sounds suspiciously like someone has taken a scam call and allowed someone to bleed your account. Let's hope it's one of the former not one of the latter.

Incidentally, good as they are, and much as I am inclined to put everything in writing, I've always found O2 to be much more responsive over the phone.

Good luck,

Mike
Posted on: 22 October 2010 by Occean
I also have found O2 really good at dealing with issue - have you called them?
Posted on: 22 October 2010 by MilesSmiles
I'm using O2 for my iPad and am actually very happy with the service.
Posted on: 22 October 2010 by BigH47
I only have PAYG on Orange and if you use it for more than phone calls it is very expensive.
Any attempt to go online seems to suck money out off the phone.

I do have an O2 sim so that I can make use of the express line and waiting room for gigs though. Smile

It's only the fact that my use for the internet out of the house is so limited, that stops me paying out for contract.

That and the fact that any half decent phone is so friggin' expensive.
Posted on: 22 October 2010 by Absolute
You need to check there isn't anything running in the background that is using your data connection and also what your currents rates are on calls and texts.

To be honest I'd be more inclined to go into a shop and ask to talk to someone. I know they aren't always the best, but some can be very helpful and they'll be able to look at all your phone settings etc.
Posted on: 22 October 2010 by Dungassin
Well, O2 support say that I have been using my iPhone a lot for internet - I haven't. However, I did spend a couple of hours sorting out and trying Internet Radio into the iPhone, but I was using my own home wifi broadband. Is it possible the phone was sending/receiving the 3G data as well? If so, that might explain it. Anyway, I've just been into the iPhone settings and turned Cellular Data off.

Just been looking at the Simplicity tariffs and bolt-ons. May go that way just to prevent it happening again. I would like to be able to use 3G web access, if only for Google maps when we are a little lost - usually when trying to find a particular street in a strange town (including Malta - where SWMBO hails from)

Think I'll have to make a trip into Burton to the local O2 shop. I bought the phone from O2 website, so hopefully they'll give me appropriate help/service.
Posted on: 22 October 2010 by BigH47
Get a sat nav could be cheaper in the long run.
Posted on: 22 October 2010 by Lontano
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Originally posted by BigH47:
Get a sat nav could be cheaper in the long run.


Or I would just go onto a simplicity tariff - £15 quid a month for 300 minutes, plenty of data and be done with it. A good deal and no long contract.
Posted on: 22 October 2010 by Dungassin
I may well do that, but am currently discussing things with O2 support. Looking at my usage in the last month, I would have used about 15minutes webtime and 30 minutes calltime, so I would be paying for a lot which I don't need.

Apparently I could see an itemised bill, but they want £10 for the "privilege", and as far as I can see this would be for a one-off event. Have told them this is ridiculous, as all the information is no doubt held in my Mobile file.

God knows why they don't provide access to itemised bills via MyO2 - but apparently this service is not provided to Pay&Go customers - don't know if Simplicity customers get it. Perhaps a Simplicity customer will tell me.

Thanks BIG, but I don't need a satnav. The need for address info only crops up a couple of times a year, and I have no intention of paying god knows how much for something that would be very rarely used. Last time I was in a Taxi using SatNav, I watched the route it took him down (to somewhere I know well), and only a moron would have chosen that way. I was so not impressed.
Posted on: 26 October 2010 by Dungassin
Update :

On 25/10/10 O2 started limiting their charge for browsing on pay&go to £1 per day. Since then, that is exactly what is being deducted from my balance. I get a text from O2 telling me that I have reached £1 every day etc etc. Interesting - because I haven't actually USED any cellular data as far as I am aware. I haven't even been using the phone for calls or texting - waiting to sort this problem out.

However, I had turned Locations Service, Data Roaming, and Cellular Data back on. Do these things acces the net all the time - even when the phone is only in standby? According to the Usage bit in SETTINGS>GENERAL I haven't sent or received any Cellular Data in the last 2 days. I've just turned off Data Roaming again to see what happens tomorrow. Just want to get all my facts straight before harassing the staff in the local O2 Shop at the end of the week.

For information : I have discovered that O2 apparently charge you for phone usage when browsing, even if you are doing this via a wifi connection to your home network! Apparently this is because "you are using it as a modem". The only way round this is to turn off Cellular Data when you are using wifi. Roll Eyes