Boxes! Boxes! Boxes!!!

Posted by: Greg Beatty on 08 July 2003

Nope - I'm not writing about box upgrades, or boxes v. stand upgrades, or even setting your kit on top of boxes instead of proper stands.

Nope - something much more mundane than all that hi brow stuff.

Question to the Fora:

What do you do with all of the boxes that the boxes (and stands) arrive in?

Every box I have bought comes in a box and now my storage room is overflowing with boxes!!! LP12 box, Allae boxes, boxes for the ProAcs I've not sold yet...

When selling second-hand, having the original packaging seems a plus and facilitates shipping. So I'm loath to part with them.

Do you keep them all???

I've heard that the LP12 box with packaging costs $100 to replace - yikes!

And the boxes for the Allaes are rather large...

In fact, the truth is that the boxes for the boxes take up considerably more room than the boxes themselves (!).

I'm feeling rather boxed in at the moment.

What do YOU do???

- Greg "Boxed In" B

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Posted on: 08 July 2003 by Derek Wright
I keep all the boxes for the main line stuff eg amps speakers and players - do not keep boxes for disposables eg TVs DVD players computers.
I sent the Fraim boxes back to Naim so that they could be re-used (no serial numbers on them)

I keep all the boxes in the garage in black poly binbags - the car stays on the drive!

Derek

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Posted on: 08 July 2003 by Greg Beatty
"I keep all the boxes in the garage in black poly binbags - the car stays on the drive!"

Yikes!!! And I don't even have a garage Frown

I could either put the smaller boxes (Nait, FlatCap2) inside the speaker boxes, or I could "flatten" the speaker boxes so they store against a wall.

Hum...

- GregB

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Posted on: 08 July 2003 by Frank Abela
I keep all the boxes. If you don't keep the box and your dealer doesn't have an easy replacement you will be charged for a replacement. This is usually because the dealer can't get insurance from a carrier for anything which is not in original packing.

Spare a thought for the typical DBL owner. The speakers are large. The boxes are huge - and they're £600 to replace....

Regards,
Frank.
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Posted on: 08 July 2003 by Joe Petrik
quote:
Spare a thought for the typical DBL owner. The speakers are large. The boxes are huge - and they're £600 to replace....


My Sorcerers cost less than DBL boxes. I feel so inadequate.

Joe
Posted on: 08 July 2003 by Joe Petrik
Alex,

quote:
Don't worry about it. I am sure DBL owners need such large boxes to compensate for other inadequacies


I also drive a Corolla, instead of a huge FUV*, the preferred vehicle (pronounced vee-hickle) in these here parts, so it's a wonder I can even stand upright... Wink

Joe

* F*ck U Vehicle seems such a better descriptor than SUV.
Posted on: 08 July 2003 by Roy T
Easy, I use the box room.
Posted on: 08 July 2003 by David Stewart
Definitely worth keeping the packaging for all except the more expendable 'brown-goods'. Not a lot of point in flattening the boxes either, as the packing fitments then get lost and with an LP12 that could be a disaster in the making.
Sometimes you can save a little space by packing boxes within boxes, or utilise the space by storing something else in there until needed.

David
Posted on: 08 July 2003 by Greg Beatty
Yea - I wouldn't flatten the smaller boxes - and they have formed pieces that go inside and wouldn't flatten anyway - esp the LP12 (foam bits I believe).

But flattening the Allae boxes could net me a good bit 'O floor space in the storage room.

- GregB

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[This message was edited by Greg Beatty on TUESDAY 08 July 2003 at 18:33.]
Posted on: 08 July 2003 by greeny
I'm lucky in having a large loft space, so in amongst the Ski's, Christmas Dec's and various never to be seen again fashion disasters are about 20 Electronics boxes (mostly Naim).

The new stuff comes in even bigger boxes than before so even more probs. I'd never get a DBL box through my loft access hole though so thats them out. Also had to destroy the box for my TV, which I could have used as a garage!!
Posted on: 08 July 2003 by greeny
OOPs double post.

420 posts and I still can't use the bloody thing!
Posted on: 08 July 2003 by Alco
quote:
My Sorcerers cost less than DBL boxes

Holysmokes Joe, those Sorcerers most be pretty cheap then, in the US... or the boxes of your DBL's are extreeemely expensive!

Here in Holland, at my nearest Royd dealer, a pair of Sorcerers cost almost as much as a new pair of Naim Intro mkII's!

I only have the original box of my NAC72.
I bought the NAP180 and my Nait-2 s/h, so no original box, which indeed would come quite handy when I wanna sell the NAP180 for example.

regards,
Alco
Posted on: 08 July 2003 by Greg Beatty
"Also had to destroy the box for my TV, which I could have used as a garage!!"

Yep! The box for our 55" projection tele didn't last five minutes.

- GregB

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Posted on: 08 July 2003 by Joe Petrik
Alco,

quote:
Holysmokes Joe, those Sorcerers most be pretty cheap then, in the US... or the boxes of your DBL's are extreeemely expensive!


They're not that cheap. I'm not sure if Sorcerers were ever available in the U.S., but in Canada, where I bought them, they sold for something like $1800 Cdn a pair. (I got a better price, through some wheeling and dealing and liberal application of the Jedi Mind Trick, but 1800 Canadian clams was the suggested amount. I suspect the U.S. price would have been 1200 to 1300 U.S. clams.)

In the UK Sorcerers sold for 600 pounds a pair, which happens to be the price of replacement boxes for DBLs. Seems almost unfathomable that boxes should sell for as much as a pair of respectable shoe-box speakers, doesn't it?

Joe
Posted on: 08 July 2003 by Greg Beatty
Without knowing the price of replacement boxes for Allaes, anyone care to guess whether Allae shipping boxes:

* Cost less than used Kans

* Cost about the same as used Kans

* Cost more than used Kans

???

The Winner gets, um...well...nothing really.

- GregB

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Posted on: 09 July 2003 by Mario
I place the boxes in a plastic bag, seal them with tape, and throw them into the roof of the house via the man hole. Problem is when the box is too big and wont go through the hole. Allae boxes were no problem though, Mario.
Posted on: 09 July 2003 by Markus S
quote:
Originally posted by greeny:
OOPs double post.

420 posts and I still can't use the bloody thing!


So you really only wanted to post 210 times?
Posted on: 09 July 2003 by Phil Barry
Well, I just threw out some boxes,including the one for my lamentable IBM Infoprint 12 printer. Then I thought of e-baying the damn thing...too late to save the box. Damn.

Phil
Posted on: 09 July 2003 by MarkEJ
Since serving "coffee" on aircraft clearly, and reliably causes turbulence, it can safely be assumed that disposing of a maufacturer's carton will cause the item previously contained to malfunction sufficiently to require service involving shipping.

The connection between an item and its packing is mysterious and complex. If you sell something without the box, and then subsequently find the box and dispose of it, expect a call from your buyer complaining of faulty goods. This is a well known phenomenon within the computer industry.

Best;
Mark
Posted on: 09 July 2003 by Lo Fi Si
Mark
It's quantum entanglement. I'm surprised that P. Belt hasn't figured out a way of treating the packing boxes to improve the Hi Fi.

Simon
Posted on: 09 July 2003 by Greg Beatty
"I'm surprised that P. Belt hasn't figured out a way of treating the packing boxes to improve the Hi Fi."

No doubt the foam bits cause a static charge to develop on the case of whatever kit is contained within.

And it is Bad, very Bad.

- GregB

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Posted on: 09 July 2003 by NaimDropper
I keep my DMS boxes on 7 layers of M**a and all my Naim boxes on Fraim.
My kit sits on the floor.

Seriously, keeping boxes seems to be a part of the "fiddly" aspect of HiFi... Been doing it for at least 20 years now.

David
Posted on: 09 July 2003 by Arthur Bye
Hmmm....

I keep all my boxes on permanent (and prominent) display in my garage. My wife bitches about all those "empty white boxes" that take up so much space.

On the other hand she has stopped noticing all of the new black boxes elsewhere in the house.

Works pretty good for me. I'm keeping my boxes.

Arthur Bye
Posted on: 09 July 2003 by Steve Toy
My boxes are all in the attic out of harm's way.

I'm glad I have no need to go up there right now as it's f*cking hot up there at this time.



Regards,

Steve.
Posted on: 10 July 2003 by MichaelC
In the cellar with all those other boxes - it's like Alladin's cave. The last time I popped down there to sort a few things out I came accross at least three unopened packing boxes from our last house move which was 3 1/2 years ago!

Rgds

Mike
Posted on: 10 July 2003 by MichaelC
Following on I came accross an old Audiolab 8000A and my old Cambridge CD2 - anyone remember the Cambridge's?

Rgds

Mike