swap from stereo to n-Vi, good or bad?

me personally would wait till the teething problems with the nvi are sorted
scotty

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Originally posted by scottyhammer:
me personally would wait till the teething problems with the nvi are sorted
scotty

Do you mean the childrendecieses?

( all the missteaks an errors )

That's OK. But what is the difference that you experiments?

robbert,
i wasnt being detrimental towards you, just read all the threads regarding nvi problems on this forum and make your own choice!
all im saying is YES go listen for yourself and let your ears decide BUT if it was me id wait a few months for naim to sort things out.
regards, scotty

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Originally posted by scottyhammer:
robbert,
i wasnt being detrimental towards you, just read all the threads regarding nvi problems on this forum and make your own choice!
all im saying is YES go listen for yourself and let your ears decide BUT if it was me id wait a few months for naim to sort things out.
regards, scotty

Yes i untherstand it. I'm not asking the technical problems of the n-Vi. Just ask for the sound difference. And yes i know that i have to listen. But who swap and have the n-Vi for a view months and is disapointed or just happy with the swap.

it also depends if you are going to use the nvi in a surround system or 2 channel system or both

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Originally posted by scottyhammer:
it also depends if you are going to use the nvi in a surround system or 2 channel system or both

Almost both. one time listen to a nice peace of stereo music. And another time watch a nice music DVD or a nice movie with special effect end sounds. So it will be a flexible system.

in that case check it out BUT NOT YET!
scotty

OK, not yet. But does somebody else have the experiënce of disapoint or happy.

im happy robbert!

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Originally posted by scottyhammer:
im happy robbert!

What did you have before the n-Vi? ( my system? )

I'm just doing the same thing. I've had Naim stuff in various guises for the last 18 years, been through the LP12 stage etc and this time wanted a one stop solution for my music and movies without the stack of equipment in the corner. The n-Vi fitted the bill nicely so i'm happy to flog off my other Naim kit. A big decision but i like what Naim have achieved with the n-Vi and it'll do for me.

James.

sold off my naim stuff a few years ago which included cd2 nac 82 nap 250 2 x hi-caps pair of ruark speakers, lp12 went before this, no the n-vi will not match up to previous equipment for stereo but there was a big differance in the price, i find the n-vi very good in stereo via my made for movie mk k17s, and even better for movies, and for £3000 have not heard anything better, knocks spots of my denon 3805 in every way, hope this helps, yes i do have a couple of bugs to get sorted out,

hi munch, got the bugs via the optical input, am waiting to here when they have a fix for them, also the bug with the dvd-audio

Hi Robbert,

I exchanged CD3/NAC92/NAP90 with the n-Vi:

- very satisfied with the sound (definitely better)

- not satisfied with the "automatical shutdown" etc.

hi munch, sometimes my n-vi only outputs stereo, when display is showing 5-1 out-put, so i have to either switch to a hd channel or turn the unit off and back on again, with the dvd-audio fault when i play tubbular bells there are breaks in the music where there should'nt be, surprissed your optical input works ok, as most others on here seem to have similar problems to me, received e-mail from naim this afternoon saying they have an up-date, my dealer has said he will try it first before installing it on my n-vi, heres hoping, haven't had the automatic shut-down yet though,

I've heart that the "problems/bugs" are almost solved. Next month there must be a perfect n-Vi directly available from Sallisbury.

Could that be treu??

Hi Frank,

-in my dealer's opinion the n-Vi stereo is better than Nait 5i but not as good as 112x/150x. In Naim's opinion Nait is better than n-Vi. I only compared to 92/90 (see above).

- I drive the SBLs with the n-Vi and am perfectly satisfied

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Originally posted by Margan:
Hi Frank,

-in my dealer's opinion the n-Vi stereo is better than Nait 5i but not as good as 112x/150x. In Naim's opinion Nait is better than n-Vi. I only compared to 92/90 (see above).

- I drive the SBLs with the n-Vi and am perfectly satisfied

How big was the gap between the 112x/150x vs n-Vi and nait5i vs n-Vi?

Are your speakers unther control?

Hi Robbert,

as I understood my dealer: n-Vi is (in his opinion) in the middle between Nait5i and 112x/150x. And additionally: in the middle between CD5i and CD5x also (he didn't check with FC2).

I am not sure what you mean with 'under control': I am just very satisfied with the sound, not missing any control, very precise bass for instance.

Hi Robert,

I started with Naim three years ago, when LINN kicked me off by his change in sound-style (everthing had to be orientated to AV).
It was NAIT5, HC2 and CDX2. Although I now own a 252, 250-2, 555PS, Hi-Line, Powerigel, I think it was best for money.
I bought the N-vi in March, was happy until several defaults happend, it had to go back, tried a DVD5, it also crashed after a few weeks. Finally I bought a 555PS instead a Naim-AV. But it may happen in the future, when all these bugs are whiped out.

What I want to tell you is: Don`t think you can get 5 channels in equal quality as a two channel system same price, even one box for the electronic is cheaper than four. All those hifi-magazins want to tell us this, but it is probaganda.

Having the n-vi three weeks at home I must admit that it is a real fun machine, absolutly worth its price for what it offers (beside: Linn classic movie doesn`t offer a DVI/HDMI output, I think Linn lost orientation a bit).

What is different in sound-style n-vi (two channel-mode/CD, AV-unity gain(means NAP250-2 for PA)) vs. the classic two channel Naims:
The n-vi is making more room, but misses some warmth and body (less low midrange), is more bass and hights. Furhter it sounds clean but a bit technical compared to the classic systems (reminds me of a Linn cd-player a bit. Please don`t kick out of this forum for writing this ).
It does a very good rhythm and dynamic (more the big slam than the fine dynamics).
These are my impressions made about a probably half burned/played in n-vi.

My advice: Go for a home demonstration and think about your preference of listening (CD vs. DVD/AV).
If you are looking for a one box solution, I don`t know something better.

Why have there been these problems ? was it due to rushing the kit to the market? seems it needed more R&D.......... or where the problems, just things that could not have been expected to happen

Hi john boy,

sorry about the late reply. My familiy took all my time.

First I don`t know that is meant by R&D.

The problem of the n-vi I had was probably a power supply bug. I listen 4-channel mode, unity gain for front. The rears all time produced a high frequence noise, so that my ears were burned after 15 minutes of listening. Therefore I had to listen in two-channel mode. But in two channel mode the n-vi made half a sense to me. I disabled the unity gain of my 252, put the volume of the n-vi up to 50 and used it as normal DVD-player. The sound in stereo know was much better.

The n-vi had to go back for a total exchange. I took the chance to ask if I could have a DVD5 instead for the time of the exchange. The difference between a DVD5 in stereo via DIN-output and the n-vi I know can say is not a small one, really not (both via 252). The DVD5 sounds much more naturally.
As I wrote above, the DVD5 crashed after three weeks and had to go back for a complete exchange. I was unnerved and decided after a call with my dealer and the sales to first go for a XPS for my CDX2, which doesn`t serve the 252 as a stand alone player, and try a Naim-AV when all these bugs are wiped out.

Reading in this forum the DVD5 still makes some bugs even it is more than a year on market. I mean my hope of a quick solution of all these n-vi/DVD5 problems is a bit small.

Oh boy,

what a bad english!
Looking after a reply to my last post above, I see that I wrote "know" instead of "now" twice a time.
Realy ashamed I am. Think that my brain was still lying in bed when I wrote the post this morning.
Hope it doesn´t stop anyone writing a reply.

Who have the experiënts now between the n-Vi and the NAC202/150x

I'm a proud owner of a NAC202/CD5x/HC2/NAP150x

Before the NAC202 i had a 112x. The 202 is far better than the 112x. So the n-Vi is no comp to the NAC202??

Well, I've got a 112x/150x (hicap'd) and my plan is for an n-Vi to run WITH this kit, NOT instead of it - if you've got a 202 then I'd certainly suggest the same thing - let the n-Vi deal with pictures, DTS/DD and driving the centre, rears and sub.... but run it unity gain into your 202 - then when you listen in 2 channel you're not involving the n-Vi and thus not losing anything