Artists who improve as they get older?

Posted by: JamieL_v2 on 18 August 2010

I guess it is one of the rock cliches that good rock music can only be written and played by those in the flowing of their youth.

To some extent I do tend to agree with that, much of the music I most enjoy is from when artists are struggling to find their voice, or enjoying the peak of creativity that comes as they become comfortable with their craft in the years that follow on immediately.

There are a few exceptions I to this for me. I know I bang on about Mark Kozelek, but I do think that over the last few years he has been writing his best music, and that his guitar playing and voice have both matured.

There are other artists I think have reached peaks later in their career, but perhaps not quite at the heights of their youthful flowering. I love the last two King Crimson studio albums 'The Power to Believe' and 'The Construction of Light', perhaps not 'Red' or 'In the Court of the Crimson King'. I also love Bowie's two mid 90's albums '1.Outside' and 'Earthling', but they are not 'Hunky Dory' or 'Ziggy Stardust'.

Miles Davis had several periods of great creativity, and perhaps with jazz there are (many) more examples. Classical I am sure is largely exempt from this cliche.

Live I find it very different, I have greatly enjoyed artists of all ages performances.

Very subjective I know, some will have very differing opinions on the same artist, but which artists do people think have improved with age?
Posted on: 23 August 2010 by Martin M
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Originally posted by pcstockton:
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Andy Partridge


WTF! Did you just right about Zappa and Andy Partridge in the same post?

The horror!


Ha! Scott Walker too!
Posted on: 23 August 2010 by Martin M
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Originally posted by pcstockton:
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IMO Frank Zappa seemed to have three superb phases:


I see a few more than that:

- First Mothers (up to Uncle Meat)
- Second Mothers (Flo and Eddy)
- Early Instrumental (Hot Rats, Wazoo, Waka Jawaka etc)
- Third Mothers (Roxy, One Size etc...)
- Serious (e.g. LSO/Boulez/Yellow Shark)
- O'Hearn/Bozzio Years>
- The Ike Willis Years
- Best Band/Make A Jazz Noise Tour and albums
- Synclavier/Civ III and other electronica


You're more forgiving than me! Actually, I lumped Hot Rats in with the first phase - I hear its roots in Lumpy Gravy (now that's a strange sentence).

One more for the list. Johnny Cash - his American Recordings set is as good or better than anything else he recorded.
Posted on: 26 August 2010 by Biddy
I think Justin Bieber gets better and better. I can't wait for his voice to change. Then he's REALLY gonna rawk... Winker
Posted on: 29 August 2010 by GrahamFinch
Leonard Cohen - a deeper and more mellow voice than in his youth and still going strong at 72.

Saw him twice at the O2 and he was brilliant on both occasions.
Posted on: 05 September 2010 by Clive B
Interesting question, but you need to realise that your (the listener's) tastes mature as the artist matures.

There are artists who I thought were brilliant in my teens, but cannot bear to listen to now. Likewise, there are those recordings I could have listened to in my teens, but chose not to, which I now find most adorable.
Posted on: 09 September 2010 by listen ear
Roger Hodgson of "Supertramp" fame.He performed in Sydney earlier in the year.Fantastic.He hits those high notes even better than he did in the 70's which is pretty amazing.
Posted on: 09 September 2010 by mudwolf
I'm partial to Dylan's latest stuff, the past decade, tho like Cohen not a pretty voice and lyrics not for everyone, but I find the backing band and dance music and ballads are excellent.
Posted on: 09 September 2010 by ray davis
I saw Depeche Mode in thier early days, with the typical synth pop. The we went into Black celebration, violator Saw them in December at the NEC for Sounds of the universe. Their music has matured and changed immensely over the past decades.

One of Bands who have gone from ok to excellent.