Tom Lehrer
Posted by: Tam on 18 June 2006
Prompted by ROTF on another thread, I thought I'd start one for the great satirist (whose talents are sorely missed these days, and, indeed, since he went into retirement as a writer of satirical songs, following Kissinger's Nobel prize, after which he declared satire dead, and that there was nothing funny left to say).
Lehrer had a remarkable range, whether it be his political songs or his treatment of modern teaching methods - his 'New Math' greatly amused me and my fellows when I did my teacher training a couple of years back (and it is remarkable that some 30 years after it was written it has lost none of its bite - indeed, in other regards the topicality of his songs, such has the nuclear proliferation themed 'who's next' is quite terrifying). Then there is the insanity of songs like Poisoning Pigeons in the Park.
However, what is especially impressive, for me, about Lehrer is the way his razor sharp wit mixes with musical knowledge. Take, for example, Clementine where he rewrites the song in a variety of styles (from that of Mozart, to Cole Porter and even Gilbert and Sullivan). Then there is the cleverness of his rhymes (in particular the way he has words straddle lines in order to make them work).
As I say, an absolute genius whose work should be represented in every respectable CD library. And there is no better way to start than
this:
regards, Tam
Posted on: 18 June 2006 by u5227470736789439
Please will you tell me what is the issuing label? I have the one disc Decca issue which is about an hour of live stuff, and if there is more I would like to get it!
Thanks from Fredrik
Posted on: 18 June 2006 by Tam
Dear Fredrik,
It is on Warner Archive's Rhino label, catalogue number R2 79831.
However, it is fair to say the set contains a degree of duplication, a good proportion of the songs feature in both live and studio versions, the only difference being the spoken introduction (sound quality on the live ones isn't appreciably different).
The two discs that comprise these live recordings are available individually and may be cheaper than the box set: Tom Lehrer in Concert and That was the Week that Was.
regards, Tam
Posted on: 18 June 2006 by u5227470736789439
Thanks Tam, and I'll investigate that when I go to pick the Unfinished under Boult, which they thought no one would buy so decided against getting it in. When I ordered it they also ordered one for stock!
I should run a record shop. I would be good at it! [Smiley].
Fredrik
Posted on: 18 June 2006 by Tam
Is that on BBC Legends? I'll be interested to know how it compares to Furtwangler.
regards, Tam
Posted on: 18 June 2006 by u5227470736789439
Dear Tam,
Yes, and I bet there are more similarities than differences! The Great C Major shows that as well, though Boult is slightly more classical! Both are quite flexible as to tempi!
Fredr
Posted on: 18 June 2006 by Guido Fawkes
Dear Tam
I first heard a Tom Lehrer song on the Marty Feldman Show when Derek Griffiths sung a version of
Pollution. I then listened out for more songs by Lehrer. I was familiar with his
The Elements song, but didn't realise it was Lehrer until much later when I saw the Robin Ray and Cameron Mackintosh production
Tom Foolery.
I bought and still have the soundtrack album and it is a superb recording.
The original Lehrer version of
The Elements is
here. There is also a flash animated version
here, you need to click
Broadband to make it work. It is the version from
An Evening Wasted With Tom Lehrer (was ever a collection of songs less aptly titled).
When I was at University back in '70s, there was a folk club and one girl used to play and sing regularly, but she only knew one song: Lehrer's
Folk Song, and again it was some years after that I discovered its origins.
When
The Remains of Tom Lehrer came out, it was a bargain too good to miss. There is duplication, but it is still great value. It may be possible to get the indvidual albums cheaper, but the box set is very well presented.
Graeme Cree's web site (
here) contains a collection of song lyrics for all known Tom Lehrer songs, (accompanied when possible, with MIDI sound files). It is also informative.
Thank you for initiating a thread on Tom Lehrer, a unique talent.
Kind regards, Rotf
Posted on: 18 June 2006 by Tam
Dear ROTF,
Thanks for the information about Tom Foolery, I hadn't heard about it before.
I first came across Lehrer at an Edinburgh festival some five or six years as a result of a Fringe show that featured some of his work. I bought the Remains of Tom Lehrer soon after (money well spent). The set also has very good documentation (including an interview with Lehrer and song lyrics).
regards, Tam
Posted on: 20 June 2006 by KenM
I was fortunate enough to see Tom Lehrer in concert at the Free Trade Hall in Manchester around 1970, and have been a fan ever since. But he has worthy (IMHO) successors in "Kit and The Widow" who are sometimes to be found lurking on Radio 3, Saturdays at around 6:00 pm. For me, the late Jake Thakeray too shared a lot of qualities with Lehrer.
Posted on: 20 June 2006 by Tam
Kit and the Widow are at best very fine. I have heard them live twice (both times as part of the Snape Proms, as distinct from the Aldeburgh festival). The first time was wonderful (and a stunningly clever deconstruction of opera and classical music more generally) - the talk of using arts council funding to revitalise derelict rural buildings was especially amusing when sitting in the Maltings concert hall. However, the highlight of the evening came with an effort to bring classical music to the masses by reworking the Puccini's famous Nessun Dorma aria with items from an Indian restaurant menu which is probably one of the funniest things I have heard in my life (imagine the word vindaloo at the key climax and you will have a fair idea). I cannot now keep a straight face when I hear it. Some of their political songs are also not bad and their piece outlining Andrew Lloyd Webber's plagiarism has his number so completely it is scary. However, the second time I saw them, the show was so dominated by smut (and not in an especially funny way) that I was rather disappointed and, as a result, would quite equate them with Tom Lehrer.
regards, Tam
Posted on: 20 June 2006 by Guido Fawkes
Dear Tam
It is a shame when talented artists resort to smut - I've never worked out why they do it unless it is to hide a lack of new material. Kit and the Widow when constrained by the rules of early evening BBC are at their best. But if we must have Smut then let it be Smut like this from the great man ...
Give me smut and nothing but
A dirty novel I can't shut
If it's uncut
And unsubt-
Tle
I've never quibbled if it was ribald
I would devour where others merely nibbled
As the judge remarked the day that he
Acquitted my Aunt Hortense
"To be smut it must be ut-
Terly without redeeming social importance"
Por-
Nographic pictures I adore
Indecent magazines galore
I like them more
If they're hard core
Bring on the obscene movies, murals, postcards, neckties, samplers, stained-glass windows, tattoos, anything! More, more, I'm still not satisfied!
Stories of tortures
Used by debauchers
Lurid, licentious, and vile
Make me smile
Novels that pander
To my taste for candor
Give me a pleasure sublime
Let's face it, I love slime
All books can be indecent books
Though recent books are bolder
For filth, I'm glad to say, is in
The mind of the beholder
When correctly viewed
Everything is lewd
I could tell you things about Peter Pan
And the Wizard of Oz, there's a dirty old man
I thrill
To any book like Fanny Hill
And I suppose I always will
If it is swill
And really fil-
Thy
Who needs a hobby like tennis or philately
I've got a hobby, rereading Lady Chatterley
But now they're trying to take it all
Away from us unless
We take a stand, and hand in hand
We fight for freedom of the press
In other words
Smut, I love it
Ah, the adventures of a slut
Oh, I'm a market they can't glut
I don't know what
Compares with smut
Hip hip hooray
Let's hear it for the Supreme Court
Don't let them take it away
Best regards, Rotf
Posted on: 20 June 2006 by Guido Fawkes
quote:
Originally posted by KenM:
I was fortunate enough to see Tom Lehrer in concert at the Free Trade Hall in Manchester around 1970, and have been a fan ever since. But he has worthy (IMHO) successors in "Kit and The Widow" who are sometimes to be found lurking on Radio 3, Saturdays at around 6:00 pm. For me, the late Jake Thakeray too shared a lot of qualities with Lehrer.
You are lucky indeed to have seen Tom Lehrer.
I am also a fan of the late great Jake Thakeray with
Sister Josephine and
La Di Da being particular favourites.
Posted on: 20 June 2006 by Tam
Dear ROTF,
One of the things that makes Tom Lehrer's 'Smut' so sublime is the cleverness of his rhymes. Sheer genius.
regards, Tam