A slight buzz when using a no-Naim Power amp

Posted by: yairf on 18 January 2003

Hi all
My system is CDX+PSX, 82+2xHiCap and a no-Naim power amp (literally speaking Wink )
The power amp has RCA inputs, about 25cm apart from one another.
The wiring scheme is as follows:
82 -> HiCap using black snaic
HiCap -> power amp using two Chord Cobra 2 interconnects, having Din-4 plugs at the HiCap end, each carrying one channel (same as connecting two 135 monoblocks)
In normal connection, the sound is shut in and rather sluggish, having null top end and a rather boring presentation.
Knowing Naim's susceptibility to ground loops, I disconnected the ground at the RCA plug entering the right channel of the power amp - nothing happened. Then I tried the same trick with the left channel and suddenly the sound opened and became the outstandingly musical sound I had anticipated at the first place.
The major drawback to this configuration is a very slight buzz I get at the left speaker, which bothers in quiet passages.
I tried using a 4.5 and 9 ohm resistors at the ground posts of the left channel cable but without any positive results.
Any ideas?
I was thinking about two options:
(1) use a cable between the 82 output (normally going to a 180 power amp, with DIN 5 plug) - this was dropped as the Hi-Cap is the ground source so I guess I must use it to carry the signal.
(2) use a single Snaic-type cable and separate it to 2 RCA cables as close to the power amp as possible (anyone tried something like that? will it make a difference?)

The power amp was tested in other systems and functioned faultlessly.

Thanks for any comments.
Yair
Posted on: 19 January 2003 by Arye_Gur
Hi Yair -

Welcome to the forum.

Arye
Posted on: 19 January 2003 by ChrisBathory
Hi Yair,

Not sure if this would work, but I would try reconnecting the RCA signal grounds, and see if you can get the 0v disconnected from earth inside your power amp - a bit technical unfortunately...

Actually a much better plan is to get hold of a Naim power amp, you'd be certain of earthing correctly, and the performance should make you smile too !

Hope this helps!
Chris

[This message was edited by ChrisBathory on MONDAY 20 January 2003 at 00:10.]
Posted on: 19 January 2003 by yairf
Hi Arye
Thanks!!

Hi Chris
Two comments:
1. the performance of my no-Naim power amp is way better than my good-old NAP-250.
2. I am not sure that disconnecting the earth from the power plug is a great idea as it compromises the safety of the device.

Can anyone here share his experience with no-Naim power amps in a Naim system?
Thanks, Yair
Posted on: 20 January 2003 by ChrisBathory
Hi Yair,

I'm pleased you have such a good power amp...! will you share what it is?

I didn't actually mean for you to disconnect the case earth and compromise safety, but to remove the connection from the signal ground 0v and the case earth - inside the power amp...

I suppose the another way is to do the 0v - earth separation, inside the CDP... again not compromising safety, leaving the case earth connection intact...

good luck!
Chris
Posted on: 20 January 2003 by yairf
Hi Chris
Many thanks for your comments.
There is no electrical connection between the signal ground and the case.
Thanks again.