Ensemble honeytable?!
Posted by: Bas V on 09 February 2001
Does anybody know the Ensemble honeytable? I saw one s/hand for UKP85. Now I know my CDI needs a good support, but due to some major upgrades, I cannot afford a new rack from one of the better brands right now.
This device was a plate of some kind of rubber on 4 spikes. It looked pretty solid. Could it be any good?
And, are there any other tips regarding setting up of the CDI?
Regards Bas
Paul, Mark - save us - build Naim tables - priced like NACA5.
Phil
--Eric
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Paul, Mark - save us - build Naim tables - priced like NACA5.
yes. i have said same in quite a few of my postings on equipment supports...
enjoy...
ken
For the cost of the leading stands, I think Naim can manufacture a stand, the hi prices give the ability to contain Naim high quality and responsibility to customers in this area too.
I think (only a guess) that manufacturing an arm for a TT deals with the same problems as a stand deals with.
I imagine my CDi and 72 on a Naim stand - look beatiful, don't you think ?
Arie
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I imagine my CDi and 72 on a Naim stand - look beatiful, don't you think ?
That all depends on Paul Stephenson's metal/wood working skills don't you think?
Andrew
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And I was thinking $5/foot, too. That should be enough.
http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/flexye.html
Sounds good, miles better than the coffee table it was on before, which was itself much better than an old SO table.
I built two in a morning (3 shelf and 4 shelf) for about £60 total.
Ian
Sounds interesting and quite easy to make. Just one question where did you get the 18mm di. threaded bars from?
Simon
BUT, does anybody know the Ensemble????
I used 20mm instead of 18mm, from a good local tool / fastenings shop. You'll need to look beyond B&Q for this stuff. I could find neither the hardeware nor drills in 18mm - just doesn't seem to be a standard size here. 16mm would also have been possible but may have looked rather slender.
I couldn't find rubber washers - apparently hot water bottle bung washers would do but the chap nearly fell over when I said I needed 42. So I cut out some old bike inner tubes but that's not ideal. I'm sure more persistance would pay off but I wanted to get this done quickly.
The finishing touch is to get some cap nuts to finish off the tops of the bars but these are harder to find.
I got some damping sheets from Halfords (car accessory store) - Dynamat self adhesive sheets for use damping car body panels (with some rather amazing claims for what the stuff can do for car audio).
Its easy to build. Cut the MDF out and clamp it together to drill the holes so they line up. Chamfer the edges. I painted the boards black.
I haven't yet fitted spikes but should probably try this sometime.
Actually bulding it is very quick.
To 'quantify' the effect - I guess I had always been a bit of a stands sceptic, but I was quite amazed at the effect this made compared to either a coffee table or an old SO table. It was a better upgrade than when I tried adding a HiCap to the 42-5 on the old table.
The CDI does seem very sensitive to support.
Note I've not compared to any high end stands, and the rest of the system is 42-5 / 140 / Rega Alya (ie not super-demanding)
Ugo,
Yes it's great that they're upgradeable to make space for even more black boxes.... just undo the nuts, and re-space the shelves. It would be worth allowing for this when by cutting the threaded bars long.
Ian
Thanks for the tip about the rubber washers. By 'rubber retailer' do you mean neoprene / wet suit gear?
Next time I need to re-build I'll sort this out.
I used a self-adhesive sheets called Dynamat Original. www.dynamat.com
This was from a car accessory retailer - sold to reduce body panels distorting and hence improve in-car HiFi - 'to minimise unwanted vibration and reduce road noise'
The sheets are some sort of dense compound, about 2mm thick I suppose, cut out and stuck to the lower surface of the shelves. I didn't do any tests without so can't comment on the effect.(obviously now it's too late as it's stuck down).
They also do other types including 'Extreme Dynamat' with '4 times the damping efficiency of Original'. Oh no, another upgrade route!
Thanks,
Ian
Greetz, Bas
I have heard of a pole checker like that of Van Medevoort for DFL20,- at Praxis. I was thinking of buying that. A better choice or not?
Groeten, Bas