Walnut SBL pics please.....

Posted by: Name on 30 March 2002

If anyone out their with some pics of the Walnut finish SBL; could you please post some...I'm a little vague as to what constitutes Walnut versus Cherry.
What finish are the SBL's depicted on the front page of the web site.

Cheers Guys..happy snapping roll eyes

Posted on: 31 March 2002 by Naheed
naheed...

[This message was edited by Naheed on SUNDAY 31 March 2002 at 09:58.]

Posted on: 31 March 2002 by garyi
I believe the ones on the website are cherries, as in my profile picture.

The walnut is leaning more towards lighter brown, without so much red in them.

Posted on: 31 March 2002 by J.N.
I think they look almost 'teak'.

The flash plays tricks; but this will give you an idea.

Walnut is normally darker and browner in my experience.

Posted on: 31 March 2002 by garyi
Now you see JN, I am sure we have had this argument before, yours look like cherry and no messing.
Posted on: 31 March 2002 by Name
thanks guys:
Naheed...cool set up....what's it like without the mana(or is that a silly question to ask).

J.N and Gary...yip I think your right Gary..
J.N's SBL's look very Cherry to me. smile

Posted on: 01 April 2002 by garyi
Yea that looks a little better, thing is I have seen cherries and walnuts extensively, (my step dad has the walnuts) and they are like chalk and cheese where colour is concerned.

FWIW I think the cherries look better, but then I would wouldn't I?

Posted on: 01 April 2002 by Naheed
NAIM - i've had the SBLs on Phase Three now for two years, and experimented without for a short time, upon the advice of a few people saying mana screws with the sound.

Suffice to say - the short time was only a day, the SBLs sounded bloody awful, slow, confused, just plain lifeless...

Anyway here's another frontal snap of my walnuts

naheed...
PS. Excuse the coiled wires - its quite an old picture...
PPS. Try Frank Abelas SBLs earthing trick - it was a marked improvement for me

Posted on: 01 April 2002 by Thomas K
I think whoever said that was referring to electronic components, not speakers.

What Mana products are you using under the SBLs?

Thomas

Posted on: 01 April 2002 by Naheed
Thomas - i'm using Soundbases (size 1), three pairs currently - they supercharge the SBLs...

I've also heard a few people relating the mana effect, well in detrimental terms to speakers as well - all i can say is arse, the SBLs sound dreadful without as do the boxes...

Hello Vuk - the pictures are a bit off.

To be honest when i bought them i compared the cherry and walnut, the Cherry finish looked better but the walnuts were a closer match to my flooring.

naheed...

Posted on: 02 April 2002 by Rico
Nice job in PS, Vuk! That looks much closer to Walnut - v.similar to Jawed's old ones.

Ahhh - don't SBL's have a certain elegant simplicity about them? There's certainly nothing like them - and I dig the look. I'm really looking forward to getting mine in and working. Progress report is the system is now mana'd and in the room proper, and doing hard duty with the ES11's. A few more days work and then it's "hello SBL's".

Rico - SM/Mullet Audio

Posted on: 02 April 2002 by redeye
Scuse me

but...Are SBLs seriously much better than Credos if they're driven properly?

I know they are 'supposed to be'

legging it
redeye

Posted on: 02 April 2002 by redeye
and Name

Have you tried everything to get the Arcs going?
Like rearranging the room?

Shame they didn't work out man.

redeye

Posted on: 02 April 2002 by Thomas K
quote:
Are SBLs seriously much better than Credos if they're driven properly?

In all honesty, yes. Source first and all, but when I changed from Credo to SBL last year (playing a the end of CDX/82/Super/Snaxo/Hi/140s) I was absolutely flabberghasted. Next to 3.5 -> CDX the most significant upgrade I made (and funnily enough it brought about the same improvements you would expect from a source upgrade - guess it was time to get some balance into the system).

It probably does depend a lot on the system in question, though.

Thomas

Posted on: 02 April 2002 by garyi
Infact bugger the source first in the beginning after selling the credos I had SBLs on the end of 92/90 into a CD3 and they were totally better than the credos in every sense, right down to the finish of the wood work. Ont the end of a CDi 102/180 they rock.
Posted on: 02 April 2002 by redeye
Aren't the SBL very room dependant tho'?
Great in some awful in others..
All speakers are I know..but SBLs more than most?

redeye

Posted on: 02 April 2002 by Thomas K
Most important thing to consider with SBLs might not be the room dimensions etc., but the walls. The 'partitions' that pass as walls (sorry) in many North American houses and probably down in your parts might not always provide enough boundary reinforcement to get SBLs sounding as great as they can.

Thomas

Posted on: 02 April 2002 by jpk73
YES!

(see my post)

- Jun

Posted on: 02 April 2002 by Rico
quote:
I know they are 'supposed to be'

=and=
quote:
Aren't the SBL very room dependant tho'?
Great in some awful in others..
All speakers are I know..but SBLs more than most?

Redeye

you just need to hear them.

But do apply "once bitten, twice shy" approach - don't be going to the speaker salesman again until you've completely de-mulletted your rig.

Rico - SM/Mullet Audio

Posted on: 02 April 2002 by johno
quote:
Originally posted by NAME:
What finish are the SBL's depicted on the front page of the web site.

If I'm not mistaken they are Beech... like mine.

Was looking for months.. then the first second-hand pair I saw came up in my home town! How lucky was that! Bit pricey mind at £1100, (compared with all my other Naim purchases that is...) still snapped 'em up...

John
Shore

Posted on: 02 April 2002 by garyi
Na surely they are cherry.
Posted on: 03 April 2002 by redeye
Wasn't looking at SBLs for myself..just a little concerned that Name is planning to bin a pair of Arcs to grab himself a pair.

But if he's happy..cool cool

Speaker salesmen can sod off...my de-mulletting of late has led me to a CDX smile

Pretty good cd player eh?

redeye

Posted on: 03 April 2002 by Rico
now I am confused... I thought he had intros.

Rico - SM/Mullet Audio

Posted on: 03 April 2002 by redeye
He has..along with a pair of Shannies and some SBLs on the way.

The Arcs didnt work out for one reason or another.

Posted on: 03 April 2002 by johno
quote:
Originally posted by garyi:
Na surely they are cherry.

Not convinced is Cherry that light?...
Here are my Beech SBL's in my old flat in Braunschwig Germany.

John
Shore

Posted on: 03 April 2002 by P
Why not just look on the box?

FWIW everybody here has Cherry veneer AFAICT. Even Naheed.

And those Sybilles on the main Naim website are most certainly CHERRY!

Walnut is a murky sorta muddy wood - kinda uncheerful.

Think of your nuts at christmas (sorry Alex)

P