just demoed Intro's on Nait-2 at home...
Posted by: Alco on 17 April 2002
Hi guys,
About 2,5 hours ago my Naim dealer came by for a home demo of the Intro II.
In my livingroom on the Nait-2/CDX combo.
Well,... it was...... one BIG dissapointment! 
But....I can't believe it had much to do with the Intro's. In the store it sounded superb.
At home the bass was too much,uncontrolled,fat!
(just the opposite of what most people said about the Intro's!)
The mids were also a bit coloured it seemed,but all in all,voices sounded pretty fine,imo.
We soon came to the conclusion that it was the room acoustics 
The distance between the 'Naim system' wall and the 'listening' wall and the floating laminate.
Afterall, thinking back...all troubles started when I just got my new laminate floor. A nice cherry laminate. Looks lovely,but kills the music!
So,...I still got my SF's and I don't now where to go now... The dealer suggested maybe some Totem 'Mite's.
Does this acoustic/floating laminate problem sounds familiar to anybody ??
(btw: I'm not gonna change my room into a typical HiFi-listening room with thick rugs on the wall,or my couch in the middle of the room,it IS a livingroom!)
Damn,....wish I never sold them Kan's. They sounded fine in this room.
well, see ya guys,
Greetings,
Alco
Posted on: 18 April 2002 by Frank Abela
Peter,
Although the Quad II had nominally quite low output current, it was really quite capable of driving difficult loads. The Nait2 isn't.
Paul Messenger is deaf - everyone knows that!
Regards,
Frank.
All opinions are my own and do not reflect the opinion of any organisations I work for, except where this is stated explicitly.Posted on: 18 April 2002 by Alco
quote:
How about those Royd Edens? I recall you recently tried and liked them...
Yes,Andrew You're right,that was me..
I sure did like 'em,but the Kan's had a more tight bottom end then the Royd's. Although the Royds were more transparent.
But that dealer who had the Royd's asked such a ridiculous price! (1272,- euro a pair/755,- UKP a pair) without the dedicated stands.
I doubted if he was telling me the real price or 'his' price... So, when I came home I snug up an old 'New HiFi Sound' magazine from 1989 in which there was a review of that same eden.
Price....only 800,- euro/like 475,- UKP.
So, imho that was a rip off.
btw:Just placed a 'For sale' ad yesterday for my SF's and got a first reaction already.. hmmm.
Greetings,
Alco
Posted on: 18 April 2002 by Theo
Alco,
Forgive me, but I keep trying to persuade you to move in the direction of France.
Cabasse can be heard at De Groef Groningen and Audio Selectief in Sneek (they also sell Diapason and MC?). The Dutch MC5 speakers can you find at Eringa in Groningen.
Btw I had the same price experience as you with your Royd dealer.
Theo
Posted on: 18 April 2002 by Andrew Randle
quote:
But that dealer who had the Royd's asked such a ridiculous price! (1272,- euro a pair/755,- UKP a pair)
That is absurd! About £200-£250 is about the going rate.
Andrew
Andrew Randle
Currently in the "Linn Binn"
Posted on: 18 April 2002 by Martin Payne
quote:
Originally posted by Frank Abela:
Paul Messenger is deaf - everyone knows that!
Frank,
hmm, dunno about deaf, but he certainly wants a weird sound from his speakers!
I've heard Isobariks & DBLs on 3x250s at his home, and he manages to make them sound like no other pairs of same that I've heard.
I suspect he turns up the treble a fair bit.
[/QUOTE]All opinions are my own and do not reflect the opinion of any organisations I work for, except where this is stated explicitly.[/QUOTE]
(Maybe it's just as well)!
cheers, Martin
Posted on: 19 April 2002 by Pete, Mad Bad and Dangerous to Know
Hi,
I used to run a NAIT 1 and 57 they are a very good match, 57s sound better with 135s but then anything would.
Pete Mad Bad & Dangerous to Know
Posted on: 19 April 2002 by Dev B
Frank wrote: Paul Messenger is deaf - everyone knows that!
Too right mate.
ps. and he likes those Rehdehko speakers which are designed for people with high frequency hearing loss.
Posted on: 19 April 2002 by sceptic
Has ceased production. IIRC
Posted on: 19 April 2002 by Andrew Randle
They were crap anyway. Totally unintegrated sound.
Andrew
Andrew Randle
Currently in the "Linn Binn"
Posted on: 19 April 2002 by Rico
quote:
Trade the CDX for a cd-5,buy yourself a better Naim-amp(72/hi/140) and then you'll see a lot of the "problems" solved.
Yeah good idea! Diminish/decrease the resolution and information (lets assume at least the same tunefulness) at the front end, and then increase the resolution of the amplification section!. Wow - thats gotta be a recipe for enjoyable music listening through ...err... oh yes, that would be fault-masking, wouldn't it.
Alco, do not consider this. Upgrades should be upgrades.
Rico - SM/Mullet Audio
Posted on: 20 April 2002 by Martin Payne
The only experience I ever had with Redhekos was walking past a room at a show and thinking something sounded good.
They were the speakers.
Couldn't get in for a proper listen, though.
cheers, Martin
