What's happening with the forum?
Posted by: Flame on 15 July 2010
Hi guys;
I know this section of the forum is more quiet and mostly visited by the more seasoned forum members. For that reason I ask, what is happening lately to the forum? I have noticed a recent increase in hostility in several threads. Regardless of whether there was a trigger to such violent mood or not, it is sad to observe this on the forum.
One of the best features about the Naim forum is the laid back, friendly and mature nature of the members. I hope we don't loose that.
Regards...
I know this section of the forum is more quiet and mostly visited by the more seasoned forum members. For that reason I ask, what is happening lately to the forum? I have noticed a recent increase in hostility in several threads. Regardless of whether there was a trigger to such violent mood or not, it is sad to observe this on the forum.
One of the best features about the Naim forum is the laid back, friendly and mature nature of the members. I hope we don't loose that.
Regards...
quote:polyumpteenth time.
quote:Maybe what we need is a few more Adam-interventions.
NO! At least not without translations into English
quote:Originally posted by munch:
Flame,
This what is happening to the forum thread has got more posts than the same one you started a while back.
Stu
Which "other" thread are u referring to? I forgot!
Regards...
The idea that anyone here is entirely innocent is a little naive. Let's take a step back for a second...
Mick Parry, a "chap" who, perhaps with others, longs for the mythical good old days but conveniently forgets the likes of Stallion et al; the numerous times he and others have been accused of being part of a clique; sees nothing offensive in starting each post with the word "chaps" and then, hey, we don't like it when there's a new clique in town. It was ever thus. Unfair to highlight Mick in this respect? Yes, apologies, but it serves a purpose.
The forum, as has been observed by better than I, reflects life. It may have seemed to some, a sanctuary from it, but that's neither realistic nor sustainable. Online does reflect life. Could we ponder a little before we post? Yes, theoeretically, but then why be online at all if not in anticipation of an instant response? Again, a nice thought, but more yearning for a forum that's the equivalent of postal chess. The idea that we all behave in an unnatural way is kind of true but it's more that online does change our behaviour but also reflects it.
Facebook and Twitter serve as good examples of this. I am inclined to deride both for their inanity but as Clay Shirky recently remarked, and I paraphrase, teenagers talk about sex, flirt and talk rubbish. Who knew? Now at least it's out in the open and the worst excesses cam be curtailed by parents.
People come and go on forums. Everyone has a golden moment when the forum seems like their place with their friends. Like work, like life, it passes and that's as it should be.
This is a great place. It may seem less civilised to many than it used to be but then who says it was and who says it has to be. Easy to forget that Naim moderated with a light touch until Adam came along. Moderators can change the tone of a place just as much as the participants and just as much as the times.
Easy too to forget that, as has already been observed, we live in changing times. As hi-fi finds itself wrestling with disruptive technology so discussions must fragment and so the sense of community dissipates a little. We're all nervous about what the future holds and the choices we're making now. Inevitable if a little tension creeps in and people over defend those choices or too readily accept the status quo of opinio? Yes. Inevitable that some come along and challenge that? Yes, surely it would be a closed; irrelevant and dysfunctional place if they did not?
Me? I like it here. I've learnt something about hi-fi when I've needed to (although actually this is not an especially good place for that); I've discovered new music and even found common ground where I thought there would be none. Mick Parry as I recall likes Josh Rouse - reespeck
- and the Padded Cell can be inane; annoying; very funny and thought provoking. I'm old enough and wise enough now to know that I don't need to have an opinion on everything and, where I do, I don't have to post it.
If you're staying away because you think it's changed here well you're right and you're wrong. Of course it's changed. Always has, always will. If you hide from change chaps then you're possibly hiding from life. If that's the choice then okay but remember it's a choice and blaming other people for that is generally ill informed and dangerous.
Mike
Mick Parry, a "chap" who, perhaps with others, longs for the mythical good old days but conveniently forgets the likes of Stallion et al; the numerous times he and others have been accused of being part of a clique; sees nothing offensive in starting each post with the word "chaps" and then, hey, we don't like it when there's a new clique in town. It was ever thus. Unfair to highlight Mick in this respect? Yes, apologies, but it serves a purpose.
The forum, as has been observed by better than I, reflects life. It may have seemed to some, a sanctuary from it, but that's neither realistic nor sustainable. Online does reflect life. Could we ponder a little before we post? Yes, theoeretically, but then why be online at all if not in anticipation of an instant response? Again, a nice thought, but more yearning for a forum that's the equivalent of postal chess. The idea that we all behave in an unnatural way is kind of true but it's more that online does change our behaviour but also reflects it.
Facebook and Twitter serve as good examples of this. I am inclined to deride both for their inanity but as Clay Shirky recently remarked, and I paraphrase, teenagers talk about sex, flirt and talk rubbish. Who knew? Now at least it's out in the open and the worst excesses cam be curtailed by parents.
People come and go on forums. Everyone has a golden moment when the forum seems like their place with their friends. Like work, like life, it passes and that's as it should be.
This is a great place. It may seem less civilised to many than it used to be but then who says it was and who says it has to be. Easy to forget that Naim moderated with a light touch until Adam came along. Moderators can change the tone of a place just as much as the participants and just as much as the times.
Easy too to forget that, as has already been observed, we live in changing times. As hi-fi finds itself wrestling with disruptive technology so discussions must fragment and so the sense of community dissipates a little. We're all nervous about what the future holds and the choices we're making now. Inevitable if a little tension creeps in and people over defend those choices or too readily accept the status quo of opinio? Yes. Inevitable that some come along and challenge that? Yes, surely it would be a closed; irrelevant and dysfunctional place if they did not?
Me? I like it here. I've learnt something about hi-fi when I've needed to (although actually this is not an especially good place for that); I've discovered new music and even found common ground where I thought there would be none. Mick Parry as I recall likes Josh Rouse - reespeck
- and the Padded Cell can be inane; annoying; very funny and thought provoking. I'm old enough and wise enough now to know that I don't need to have an opinion on everything and, where I do, I don't have to post it. If you're staying away because you think it's changed here well you're right and you're wrong. Of course it's changed. Always has, always will. If you hide from change chaps then you're possibly hiding from life. If that's the choice then okay but remember it's a choice and blaming other people for that is generally ill informed and dangerous.
Mike
quote:Originally posted by BigH47:
Hence the massive amounts of complaints I get, NOT.
BTW I'm not complaining about the so called demise of the forum, if indeed there is a demise.
True many members have stopped posting, many have joined too, off the top my head over 2500 this year. Admittedly they don't all post.
With people like you insulting them when /if they do it's hardly surprising, is it?
Any idea when the last time I posted an obit?
Now back in your box, there's a good boy.
BigH47
When was the last time you posted an obit?
Well actually tonight.
Mick
The great thing about a thread like this is it does allow newbies to see the forum arses self-identify.
That would be "... post an addition to a thread about an obituary" rather than "post on an obit" which rather suggests obliterating it.
Pedants deserve each other
That would be "... post an addition to a thread about an obituary" rather than "post on an obit" which rather suggests obliterating it.
Pedants deserve each other