What are you listening to right now? (VOL I)

Posted by: Tam on 06 June 2005

Anyway, to kick things off, I'm currently, and probably for most of the rest of this week, listening to Radio 3's Beethoven Experience. They're doing one of the piano concertos at the moment and (number 2 with Glenn Gould). Anyway, the experience thing probably needs its own thread, but, even on this cheapo radio it's proving fairly enjoyable.

So, what are you listening to right now?
Posted on: 28 March 2007 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
John Zorn - Bill Frisell - Wayne Horvitz - Fred Frith - Joey Baron - Yamatsuka Eye
Naked city.
Posted on: 28 March 2007 by Graham Russell


Remastered version. Excellent Smile
Posted on: 28 March 2007 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
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Originally posted by Graham Russell:


Remastered version. Excellent Smile



Yes!
Great!
Smile
Posted on: 28 March 2007 by sjust
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Originally posted by Gianluigi Mazzorana:
John Zorn - Bill Frisell - Wayne Horvitz - Fred Frith - Joey Baron - Yamatsuka Eye
Naked city.


Oh dear... everything OK with you, Gianluigi ? This is music to commit suicide with...

I remember when I had a birtday present for my father - going to a Jazz festival with him (he was a big Jazz fan, when he was young...) The final concert on that evening (must have been the late eighties...) was Naked City. At the beginning, there were like 500 people in the audience. We were brave enough to listen to Zorn until the end. We and other 20 people. An evening to remember. I have 3-4 Zorn CD's myself, but ask myself, why, now and then.

Gian, you're a hero, if you manage to listen to them on high volume from start to end !!!

cheers
Stefan
Posted on: 28 March 2007 by Cyrene
Posted on: 28 March 2007 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
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Originally posted by sjust:
quote:
Originally posted by Gianluigi Mazzorana:
John Zorn - Bill Frisell - Wayne Horvitz - Fred Frith - Joey Baron - Yamatsuka Eye
Naked city.


Oh dear... everything OK with you, Gianluigi ? This is music to commit suicide with...

I remember when I had a birtday present for my father - going to a Jazz festival with him (he was a big Jazz fan, when he was young...) The final concert on that evening (must have been the late eighties...) was Naked City. At the beginning, there were like 500 people in the audience. We were brave enough to listen to Zorn until the end. We and other 20 people. An evening to remember. I have 3-4 Zorn CD's myself, but ask myself, why, now and then.

Gian, you're a hero, if you manage to listen to them on high volume from start to end !!!

cheers
Stefan



Smile
Thank you Stefan!
Zorn is not the most easy listening artist i know but his works are interesting.
Consider that he moves in any direction and this get my curiosity.
Last night my friend and i did listen to "Moonchild" and that is very far more hard and complicated than "Naked city".
Yes.
I got shocked!
Smile
Posted on: 28 March 2007 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
So now, to come back to earth i'll go with this Giuliani+Pieranunzi live in Rome at "casa del Jazz".
It's a series of records that come out weekly with an italian magazine.
Very high quality.
And something...............more relaxing!
Winker
Posted on: 28 March 2007 by sjust
Here: Trio Beyond (Jack DeJohnette, Larry Goldings, John Scofield) - Saudades.

Had lent this to a friend (for little moire than I had intended to...), and am happy to have it back. Good stuff loaded with a lot of energy.

cheers
Stefan
Posted on: 28 March 2007 by Michael_B.
Steeleye Span!

It's a been a while..... Smile

It's like returning to your old favourite watering hole. Feeling very back home Big Grin
Posted on: 28 March 2007 by ewemon
Rickie Lee Jones- Ghostyhead
Posted on: 28 March 2007 by Huwge
Wynton Marsalis - From the plantation to the penetentiary
Posted on: 28 March 2007 by SteveGa
Posted on: 28 March 2007 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
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Originally posted by SteveGa:



Hi Steve!
How's this record?
Posted on: 28 March 2007 by Cyrene
Posted on: 28 March 2007 by BigH47
Posted on: 28 March 2007 by Cyrene
Posted on: 28 March 2007 by Tam
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Originally posted by Cyrene:
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Originally posted by Tam:


Disc 1 from Miles Davis's Celar Door Sessions. I must confess to having been slightly disappointed with the recent boxes in this series from, but this one is really quite extraordinary - wish I hadn't held off so long in buying it.

regards, Tam


Which aspect(s) of the recent reissues have you been disappointed with Tam?



I just think I find myself agreeing with Teo Macero's comments, e.g. this from a Grauniad article about the Jack Johnson issue:

quote:

The set offers unprecedented insights into the musical intelligence that went into the album's creation. But with mistakes and doodles included in the mix, are these private explorations really for public consumption decades later? Despite producing the original sessions, Teo Macero was not involved in putting the set together, and is adamant that they should never have been released in this form. "I hate it," he says. "I think it's a bunch of shit, and you can quote me on that. And I hope you do. It has destroyed Miles and made him sound like an idiot. It's a terrible thing to do to an artist when he's dead. Those records were gems, and you should leave them as gems."

Holland is more equivocal. "As a scholarly study it's very interesting," he says, "but sometimes a part of me feels it violates the privacy of the musical process, so it's a tough one to call."


I just feel that a lot of the albums of this period were works of genius (as much in the editing as the performance), and they way the were put together made them far more than the sum or their parts (as these boxes tend to demonstrate).

That's not to say there isn't some very good music on some of the sets I've been lukewarm about (Bitches Brew and Silent Way particularly), just that I don't think they are nearly as fine as the 65-68 quintet set or the Gil Evans box.

This is rather different though, in that it's a set of live sets (though it does make me wonder what happened to the sets that aren't presented here - though I haven't read the booklet in full and it seems to suggest some of them may have been released on other discs).


regards, Tam


p.s. I love My Funny Valentine (though I wish, if they haven't already done so, they'd get round to issuing it and Four and More as a proper two disc set preserving the concert in its original order).
Posted on: 28 March 2007 by Haim Ronen


A sign of life for Gian..
Posted on: 28 March 2007 by kuma

Glenn Underground : About Us 12" single
Posted on: 28 March 2007 by smiglass

Got this one on vinyl! Much better than the CD.

Anthony
Posted on: 28 March 2007 by kuma
Posted on: 28 March 2007 by kuma
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Originally posted by smiglass:

Got this one on vinyl! Much better than the CD.

I think that's the only way I can bare to listen to Metheny stuff. Big Grin
Posted on: 29 March 2007 by Jono 13
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Originally posted by Graham Russell:


Remastered version. Excellent Smile


I shall dig out my orignal fold-out sleeve with postcards vinyl version for a spin tonight.

Jono
Posted on: 29 March 2007 by Cyrene
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Originally posted by Tam:
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Originally posted by Cyrene:
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Originally posted by Tam:


Disc 1 from Miles Davis's Celar Door Sessions. I must confess to having been slightly disappointed with the recent boxes in this series from, but this one is really quite extraordinary - wish I hadn't held off so long in buying it.

regards, Tam


Which aspect(s) of the recent reissues have you been disappointed with Tam?



I just think I find myself agreeing with Teo Macero's comments, e.g. this from a Grauniad article about the Jack Johnson issue:

quote:

The set offers unprecedented insights into the musical intelligence that went into the album's creation. But with mistakes and doodles included in the mix, are these private explorations really for public consumption decades later? Despite producing the original sessions, Teo Macero was not involved in putting the set together, and is adamant that they should never have been released in this form. "I hate it," he says. "I think it's a bunch of shit, and you can quote me on that. And I hope you do. It has destroyed Miles and made him sound like an idiot. It's a terrible thing to do to an artist when he's dead. Those records were gems, and you should leave them as gems."

Holland is more equivocal. "As a scholarly study it's very interesting," he says, "but sometimes a part of me feels it violates the privacy of the musical process, so it's a tough one to call."


I just feel that a lot of the albums of this period were works of genius (as much in the editing as the performance), and they way the were put together made them far more than the sum or their parts (as these boxes tend to demonstrate).

That's not to say there isn't some very good music on some of the sets I've been lukewarm about (Bitches Brew and Silent Way particularly), just that I don't think they are nearly as fine as the 65-68 quintet set or the Gil Evans box.

This is rather different though, in that it's a set of live sets (though it does make me wonder what happened to the sets that aren't presented here - though I haven't read the booklet in full and it seems to suggest some of them may have been released on other discs).


regards, Tam


p.s. I love My Funny Valentine (though I wish, if they haven't already done so, they'd get round to issuing it and Four and More as a proper two disc set preserving the concert in its original order).


You're dead right about MFV; although having the two different disc's 'feels' means if you want to really bask in the mellower album you don't have to worry about messing around with program order -- they've done that for you Winker
As for the Cellar Door sessions, I think they tried to be uniform across the reissue program. Unfortunately because the mixing desk provided such a vital role in creating the finished results, we're left with disjointed and often 'rudderless' portions of music which don't seem to have any context. Of course comparing it to the great quintet's box is futile in this resepct -- most of the stuff done there (and I'm sure the whole of Miles Smiles -- my personal favourite Miles disc of all) was prett much one-take in the studio.
However, with the IaSW I do feel that much of the leftovers were highlights in themselves. Also, some of those bass-drum heavy jams on the JJ box are great for rocking out to!
I can see the musicians' point of view but Macero shouldn't really be displeased too much; after all he was involved in the release of Quiet Nights -- a disc that Miles himself wasn't overly chuffed about IIRC.

Now though, another favourite. At least one of my favourite Blue Notes:
Posted on: 29 March 2007 by Graham Russell


Pass the razor blades Smile