Yes

Posted by: Rasher on 16 January 2004

Spent the last three hours listening to Yes.
What a load of bollocks. What is Jon Anderson on about???????
I love it, but wouldn't admit to it in the pub! Big Grin
Posted on: 17 January 2004 by oldie
Hi Rasher,
the early stuff [1970's] by Yes I have always thought was way ahead of it's time including the literarily "fantastic" sleeve designs by Roger Dean, never been keen on the later stuff though, I always thought that it was an attempt to recapture a market that had move on, for purly commercial reasons.
If you ever get the chance have a listen to
Olias of Sunhillow by Jon Anderson, that is one ahead of it's time.
I don't have any problems to admitting to likeing YES in public though, as I generaly claim advanced senility, and more to the point get away with it[ This doesn't mean that this is an opportunity for Mick to agree with me though !!!!!]
Posted on: 17 January 2004 by Peter Stockwell
quote:
Originally posted by Rasher:
Spent the last three hours listening to Yes.
What a load of bollocks. What is Jon Anderson on about???????
I love it, but wouldn't admit to it in the pub! Big Grin


Great innit! Look into the Rhino expanded CDs of Fragile and the Yes Album. Fragile I have it's pretty decent. Doesn't match a Plum label Atlantic press, but does include America.

Peter
Posted on: 17 January 2004 by J.N.
Doug Graham likes to play 'Yours Is No Disgrace' at shows - 'Yes' must be OK then?

I love 'Fragile' as well - just got a 'digi-pack' remaster version from the USA with two bonus tracks.

Great stuff.
Posted on: 17 January 2004 by oldie
Doug Graham likes to play "Yours Is No Disgrace" at shows

does he, Christ!!!
would love to hear wurm played through DBL'S with the wick wound up then,
same side last track
oldie.
Posted on: 17 January 2004 by Rasher
I bought Olias of Sunhillo when it came out. I think that was the most ridiculous JA musing by far. I loved it at the time, but wouldn't give it house room now. I bought Steve Howe's Beginnings on CD after getting rid of the LP. Unlistenable crap - waste of a tenner. Chris Squires Fish Out of Water however is brilliant!! The Alan White album was good too.
For me it's the Yessongs set that was the best. Haven't heard anything after Tomato except Union, which reminded me why, although I have seen them again since.
Posted on: 18 January 2004 by garyi
I would love to link you to an excellent YEs thread from some time ago, as it goes the search facitlity on info pop is totally rubbish and has never worked for me, today is no exception.

Suffice to say I love Yes, I love everything they did up to Big Genorator (Not including) but nower days they have gotten far to gay.
Posted on: 18 January 2004 by Rasher
You mean this one?
I find the search engine OK. I will have a look at this thread tonight. Thanks Garyi
Posted on: 18 January 2004 by Not For Me
I have a lot to thank Yes, Genesis and Supertramp for, as they were the favourites of my school friends, and were so irredeemably awful that I got into The Saints and the Ramones instead.

I did buy one Yes record, Owner of a Lonely Heart, but only so I could nick the bassline.

DS

OTD - Revolting Cocks - Public Image
Posted on: 18 January 2004 by oldie
just had a look, the last album that I bought was Tomato haven't played it for years though,I
really only liked at the time ,[but will now have to re assess]their early stuff I [and a few of hi fi dealers] also have quite a bit to thank yes for as it was their music that started of my poverty struck road to financial
oblivion Thanks Guy's
Rasher, don't forget that "most" of the bands from that time produced self opinionated ramblings, mainly drug induced [ not much change in 25 years then] that we all thought at the time were brilliant, but Now welllllllllll?
oldie hippy
Posted on: 18 January 2004 by garyi
Hi Rasher, thats the one. What a great thread!

How do you do it, I put in Yes as a search and it just says to many results.
Posted on: 18 January 2004 by Peter Stockwell
quote:
Originally posted by garyi:
Hi Rasher, thats the one. What a great thread!

How do you do it, I put in Yes as a search and it just says to many results.


Yes '+' Fragile as the search keys would probably get you a long way ?

Peter
Posted on: 18 January 2004 by ejl
quote:
I have a lot to thank Yes, ... as they were the favourites of my school friends, and were so irredeemably awful that I got into The Saints and the Ramones instead.


I consider myself blessed in that my first real exposure to Yes came after listening to a fair bit of punk. This allows me to enjoy Yes's early albums with an ironic detachment that prevented their absurd, self-important lyrics from ruining the fun.

It is striking, as oldie said, how quickly things went down-hill. After a painful experience with "Drama", I pretty much avoid anything after "Tales from Topographic Oceans" (I also avoid side three of Tales for health reasons).

The Mars Volta released a prog album last year that tries to emulate Yes. They failed. The failure helped me see just how difficult good prog-rock is to make. Without a lot of hooks, catches, and repetition to draw the listener in, the line between good and bad seems to be especially thin. It's a real testament to Yes that they did it well as often as they did.

Eric
Posted on: 18 January 2004 by Rasher
Garyi - I just tried "Close to the Edge", and there it was.
I heard Relayer a while back and realised it was bad. It was one of my faves at the time. I think Topographic & CTTE are now the ones I can listen to most easily, which is weird 'cos Topographic must be the most ridiculous of all!!
Time to read that thread!!
Posted on: 18 January 2004 by Peter Stockwell
quote:
Originally posted by Rasher:
I think Topographic & CTTE are now the ones I can listen to most easily, which is weird 'cos Topographic must be the most ridiculous of all!!


I passed on Topo because £5 for an Lp in, when, 74 ? was a lot of beer money. I've never listened to it. If you've read through The Other Yes thread you'll see how I finally got to like at least side 2 of Going for the One. So, tell us if a man is man enough for Going for the One can he plunge into the deep end of Topographic oceans ?

Peter
Posted on: 19 January 2004 by Rasher
Peter- If you have come this far, then you really hould hear Topo. Its melodic and relaxed. Better that Relayer IMHO. Haven't heard Going for the One for years and years, & I don't have it anymore. No Roger Dean cover = not a real Yes album Smile. I always have to skip tracks when listening to Fragile - Can's & Brahms I hate.
Posted on: 19 January 2004 by seagull
quote:
Originally posted by David Slater:
I have a lot to thank Yes, Genesis and Supertramp for, as they were the favourites of my school friends, and were so irredeemably awful that I got into The Saints and the Ramones instead.




Big Grin

But liking Yes (never my favourite at the time, that was VdGG) was never a reason not to like the Clash, Pistols, Jam, Damned then Joy Division, Cure, Bunnymen etc.

Agree about Supertramp and wouild add Queen to that list of awful bands.

seagull (who went to school with David Slater!)
Posted on: 19 January 2004 by Peter Stockwell
quote:
Originally posted by Rasher:
Peter- If you have come this far, then you really hould hear Topo. Its melodic and relaxed. Better that Relayer IMHO. Haven't heard Going for the One for years and years, & I don't have it anymore. No Roger Dean cover = not a real Yes album Smile. I always have to skip tracks when listening to Fragile - Can's & Brahms I hate.


Rasher,

Ok I'll give Topo a belt, is there a way of telling what pressing to get ? I have to agree with about Fragile, the group tracks are diluted by the solo efforts, that's why it's nice to have the new Rhino CD, very good sound and you can skip the dross.

Peter
Posted on: 19 January 2004 by Peter Stockwell
Rasher,

Ok I just ordered a copy of Topo, I did find a nice looking Japanese press but thought that $50 was probably a bit steep. So I sourced a UK copy, c. £7. I rounded out the order with Birds of Fire from the Mahavishnu Orcehestra.

Peter
Posted on: 19 January 2004 by greeny
quote:
No Roger Dean cover = not a real Yes album


Unfortunately this discounts 'The Yes Album' which is their pinicle (IMO) with all 4 key tracks being superb and then having the Clap for good measure.

I also very much like Going for the One, I can't understand why many yes fans have a downer on this 'Awaken' is clearly one of their peaks.

Fragile is my third favourite.

However I don't Like Close to the edge as much as many (Though You and I is one of their best)

Strangely I quite like Drama - I'll get me coat
Posted on: 19 January 2004 by Rasher
quote:
Originally posted by greeny:
Unfortunately this discounts 'The Yes Album' which is their pinicle (IMO) with all 4 key tracks being superb and then having the Clap for good measure.
I also very much like Going for the One, I can't understand why many yes fans have a downer on this 'Awaken' is clearly one of their peaks.

Point taken.
Posted on: 19 January 2004 by HTK
Always been a big fan. Out of all the prog rock bands the're the one I've always gone back to and enjoyed (can't touch Genesis now, pre or post Gabriel). Can't see any reason why it should detract from enjoyment of any other misic style - music's music, you like what you like. Considering the circumstances, I think Drama was a fine effort. I stopped at Big Generator.

They are well represented on DVD (and badly represented too - you know the one!). Live at the House of Blues is a really good showcase. I can even tollerate Symphonic because it's got my all time favoutite (Gates of Delerium) which is only slighlty screwed by the orchestra, plus a nicely arranged Starship Trooper lite, building up to the predictable noisy end. One thing I will say - all their stuff looks bloody hard to play.

I'm sure some will take that the other way Smile

Each to their own.