Aussie power leads/plugs

You would need to contact our distributor in Australia to obtain these.

Details on our website - when it gets back up.

ah ok, I was hoping I could take some over with me,
You're having real website glitches at the mo.!!

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Originally posted by Bindi:
You're having real website glitches at the mo.!!

Not really - it just doesn't work.

Hi Bindi,

We made the move out here in October 2005. Audio Video Excellence in Mount Waverley looked after me very well after the shipping companies flayed soccer with my CD3 (note that if the box and the unit inside are not physically damaged, insurance will not cover you). Part of their service was re-plugging the captive lead...

Where abouts are you moving to?

Hi Nini,
We will be moving to Hobart, Tas, which to some might seem lieka strange move, but i have been there 3 times and love it. Work also fits in quite nicely over there.
Mark

Hi Bindi,

Welcome to Oz, when you come.

Tasmania is certainly a nice part of the world.

As for power leads for Naim, Australian leads are the same ones that are supplied in the UK.

Our PS voltage is the same as the UK. (230V)

Leads are supplied to Aus with a rewireable UK mains plug, and the Australian distributor changes the plug for an Aussie one.

When you come just bring your existing leads and have the local Naim dealer (retailer) change them for you.

Craig

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Originally posted by Adam Meredith:

quote:

Originally posted by Bindi:
You're having real website glitches at the mo.!!

Not really - it just doesn't work.

LOL...made my day;-) Also reminded me of this old post:

"Date: June 23, 1999 02:37 AM
Author: julian vereker
Subject: No

I would suggest that you do not remove certain diodes from the CDS PS, it needs all the diodes we put in it...

julian"

You can always take a UK 4 socket extension board and just change the plug on the end of that. That's how I've got mine setup.

I was in Tasmania over New Year - Hobart, Cradle Mountain, Bicheno and back to Hobart the day after New Year. Very nice and good to get away from the heat in Brisbane. Check out the Moo Beer :-)

Cheers
Scott

Cheers Scott.
will do, did you see the penguins at bicheno.
Never thought of your idea of the extension board...doh..sometimes i am so stupid,
cheers
Mark

You'd be much better off (sonically and financially) using what the Australian distributor recommends, than running UK plugs in Australia. Not to mention running something that's outside the elecrical regulations down there, and the resultant insurance issues you may encounter.

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You'd be much better off (sonically and financially) using what the Australian distributor recommends, than running UK plugs in Australia.

UK plugs and sockets are substantially better than Australian ones.

They have larger contact area, better contact pressure and allow for more cables in a star earthing arrangement (which is superior to using a 4 way, or mains distribution board).

Both the old type UK and Aus plugs are superior to the newer types, which use the half insulated pins for safety reasons.

As for UK plugs and sockets being outside the Aus standards and possible insurance issues you would probably be right.

As for the poor standards or attitudes ,generally, in industry (in this caes the electrical) in Australia; most slack arsed people (I say this after a visit to the electrical wholesaler yesterday), wouldn't know something decent, or care, if they fell over it.

Craig

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Originally posted by Bindi:
Cheers Scott.
will do, did you see the penguins at bicheno.
Never thought of your idea of the extension board...doh..sometimes i am so stupid,
cheers
Mark

Yes we did see the penguins. We wandered down to "penguin crossing" as the locals call it at around 9pm and saw quite a few coming in and making their way to the burrows. On the way back to our B&B we were almost run into by one crossing back to the ocean side of the road ... very comical.

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Originally posted by Rico:
You'd be much better off (sonically and financially) using what the Australian distributor recommends, than running UK plugs in Australia. Not to mention running something that's outside the elecrical regulations down there, and the resultant insurance issues you may encounter.

Rico,

I'd have to disagree here for exactly the reasons that Craig has listed below your reply. My dealer had fitted Australian plugs but did supply me with the UK plugs also. After a few days of noticing the Aus plugs "lifting" out of the distribution board and having a few UK distribution boards around from when we came over in 1996 I thought sod this and refitted the UK plugs.

I'm not claiming any sonic differences as my ears are not that sensitive but I suppose I could argue that the gear was designed with UK plugs fitted so I'm keeping it as Naim as possible.

Cheers
Scott

I've just got my seperate spur made up with British unswitched sockets. As Craig Sidwell says , they've got a larger contact area , and I reckon that they plug in so much more convincingly than the standard Aussie type. The electrician raised his eyes a few times , goodness knows what he was thinking , but he did the job.
As for the people at the local electrical retailer , when I told them that I was using a thick 40+ Ampere cable for my stereo , they looked at me as if I had grown a third nostril!

Brendan

Just did a little comparison this afternoon.

LP12,Ittok,Klyde,Prefix,Linn Setup Jig,52,SCap,250,Kans,NA5,new Naim power leads with brand new AUS 10amp plugs ( pins 1/2 insulated)

Stands OK, but not fully optimised, system OK, but obviously not in the same league as my 'big'system, when it is set up properly.

Anyway, it all sounds pretty good, but I decide to try an old (and tarnished) AUS full pin 10amp mains plug on the lead.

Immediate transformation, suddenly bass, better timing, more envovement, bigger sound.

The point?

The newer safety plugs are significantly worse.

What does that mean?

If you're using new 10amp plugs, it will never sound as good as the old ones, and from now on, if I have to use AUS mains plugs, I'll use (recommend) 20amp plugs and sockets, as they have full length pins.

Also I'm lucky enough to have a few of the old type (full length pin) UK 13amp plugs, which are better again, to use with the matching UK sockets.

Does anyone in the UK know if the 20amp UK mains plugs have full length active and neutral pins?

Craig

with reference to your comment re 'noone would really care, slack-arsed' etc... in that case have you tried the NZ PDL tap-on plugs? They are significantly better than UK plugs, eliminate distibution boards, no fuses, better and more direct connection. Most importantly they provide better music from the system. Apparrently Julian (bless him) preferred these plugs.

When coupled with the NZ 'dedicated spur' design (all within the NZ/OZ electrical regs of course!) and the unswitched socket outlet, we're well ahead of the rest with power reticulation.

Put it this way - I've still got a UK all-in-on maplins plug with Naim leads attached (and a whole bunch of Crabtree plugs), as well as a couple of UK power boards... and use the NZ PDL tapons in sonic/musical preference. For all the 'better contacts' in the UK plugs, we're still forcing live through an additional tiny fusewire. Using power distribution boards adds another unpredictable element.

All: I do note that I'm discussing a power solution that is above board re regs in NZ; it may be a usable solution in Australia. I am not suggesting the forum readers adopt this approach in other locations.

Craig - if you're unable to locate the PDL Tap-ons locally, drop me an email and I'll work with you to get some for you for trial.

regards

Rico

Hi Rico,

I've never seen NZ plugs.

Not quite true, was in NZ nearly 30 years ago, but can't remember the plugs.

Julan used to visit us nearly every year, and he never mentioned them.

Anyway, you might be right.

Julian only told me that the UK Crabtree plugs and sockets were the best 13amp UK ones.

As a result of our discussions, I've been using UK plugs and sockets in a direction optimised, mass cable, star earthed arrangement.

I have not used power boards since about 1990, and even prior to that we made up 4way unswitched units wired internally with 16mm2 cable soldered, and 6mm flex (directional) externally.

So I have had a bit of experience over the years with the effects of mains.

Anyway, I might just give the NZ plugs/sockets a go.

Hopefully they are better than the NZ assembled LP12s and Naim amps of the past!

Regards,

Craig

P.S. With regard to fuses (type, directionality etc) they still sound better than another modern invention...circuit breakers.