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Posted by: redeye on 11 July 2002

Tried to engage you music lovers with the Cinematic cd...total waste of time...so how about this?

Really hoping some of you people know who David Lowery is??

One thing I've noticed about the Naim/Mana forum thingies is how everyone seems to listen to the same stuff.. frown

Sad, very sad
Posted on: 11 July 2002 by Former member
redeye,

I'm interested in, and try to follow up on most recommendations posted here.

But it'd help if you gave us a clue as to what sort of music it was and just why it's so good. Contrary to your assertions, there is a pretty diverse range of musical tastes here. Were Cinematic Orchestra going to appeal to the MOR stylings of Mick Parry, the atonal squeaks and honking of John C ( eek ) or the indie scene of ejl? Etc. etc.

Helps as well if you can give a web-site where we can hear samples....

It may look as though I haven't followed up links, but for the more obscure stuff, it can take a while to obtain them. I have orders (based on recomendations here) with a variety of cd sites that stretch back to early May!
Posted on: 11 July 2002 by Jay
Hi Nic

Try these for size. I think you'll like it...

http://www.smokecds.com/index.cfm?layout=showcd&id=30217

Jay
Posted on: 11 July 2002 by Former member
Just to get up redeye's nose wink , let's have a Cinematic Orchestra thread here instead!

Jay, listened to the samples from the web-site reference and....wow! Good stuff!

This belongs in Darryl's Cafe Del Mar chill-out thread (there are references to CO as mixers in that thread). I'd categorise it as Bonobo-meets-Nightmares On Wax. Very good. I'll be ordering it.

DARRYL - you need to listen to this. Right up your street.


Update: Ordered it from Amazon.co.uk. They have it at £8:49 (or £11:49 used!!!). They describe it as jazz...

[This message was edited by Nick Lees on THURSDAY 11 July 2002 at 10:38.]
Posted on: 11 July 2002 by Former member
Not a waste of time redeye - I looked into it and have ordered a cd. Wasn't going to say anything till I had listened to it. Just because I didn't post doesn't mean I wasn't listening!

dozy - mana hippy
Posted on: 11 July 2002 by Former member
quote:
Originally posted by dozy:

dozy - mana hippy


I thought Mana people were bikers, not hippies!
Posted on: 11 July 2002 by seagull
or ex-Oil rig workers feeling rig-sick.
Posted on: 11 July 2002 by redeye
tables are tables
cables are cables
and everything else is everything else...

Big No to another mana thread thanks
Posted on: 11 July 2002 by Former member
big grin
Posted on: 11 July 2002 by matthewr
David Lowery was the man behind the deranged genius of Camper Van Beethoven, after which I always thought Cracker were something of a disappointment. Kind of conventional country/bluesy rock/pop for the sort of US College kids who aren't "weird" enough for Marilyn Manson and NIN but not square enough for Elton John. Sort of Crowded House territory.

I have the debut album "Cracker" which is not bad (and I applauded the fantastic anti-NRA sentiment of "Can I take My Gun to Heaven?") and "Kerosene Hat" which is much better. I was vaguely surprised to hear they have new album as I imagined they had split up and I think I'd want to hear it before i bought it.

BTW Bowery co-wrote "Sick of Goodbyes" (which is on Kerosene Hat) with Mark Linkous and IIRC subsequently gave Linkous his old 8-track and various bits and pieces. Linkous then used said equipment to form Sparklehorse and record the material that ultimately became the fantastic "Viviadixiesubmarinetransmissionplot" which is 20 times better than anything Cracker ever did. "Sick of Goodbyes" then appeared as a Sparklehorse track on the rather disappointing "Good Morning Spider" album.

Matthew

PS Having done a bit of digging I understand the correct genre description for Cracker is "Roots Rock" so if you like that sort of stuff you'll probably like this.

[This message was edited by Matthew Robinson on THURSDAY 11 July 2002 at 12:40.]
Posted on: 11 July 2002 by Former member
Just ordered "Viviadixiesubmarinetransmissionplot" from Amazon.co.uk second hand at an unmissable £4 plus P&P!
Posted on: 11 July 2002 by redeye
The Vivadixie album is very good Nick.

big grin
Posted on: 12 July 2002 by Gavin B
But haven't got around to it yet.

I've got "Key Lime Pie" by CvB and both "Cracker" and "Kerosene Hat". I'd been wondering for ages when the new album would appear.

I think "Kerosene Hat" is fantastic - could make it into my Top 20 faves (but definitely Top 50!!). My version (on CD) has 99 tracks, most of which are blank (obviously), but with the odd extra track thrown in.

So, what do you think of the new album?
Posted on: 12 July 2002 by Former member
"Viviadixiesubmarinetransmissionplot" arrived this morning, and I only ordered it yesterday. Impressive.

I like it, but haven't been totally bowled over yet. Suspect it's a grower, so I'll give it plenty of time.