The Death of J***

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other than good

And a bit west countryish no doubt. I shall investigate....

Nigel

I am actually on my way home from a John Surman concert where they did the Brewsters Rooster album with the same band as the disc. More lively in concert and I quite like the album.

Mike, tomorrow I will put together a list of a few albums it might be worth trying. ECM has a huge catalog and some are better than others.

Yes I do have the recent Anouar Brahem, so that is three copies

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Originally posted by hungryhalibut:
Well, Mike, there's one for you to try. It really is very good. John Surman plays baritone and soprano sax, as well as bass clarinet, and is further distinguished by the fact that he went to school with our very own Geoff P.

Nigel

That's on the buy list!

naim jazz.....Empirical are a brilliant band.

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Originally posted by hungryhalibut:
Following Btl's post, there is some fine jazz coming from Norway. Tord Gustavsen's latest is very good, as are all his previous albums.

Nigel

The strangest thing is that from the little town i live, got one of the biggest jazz scene in Norway

Try this one http://www.buggesroom.com/pub/downloads.shtml

I know very little about jazzie stuff, but I know what I like in my record collection and few fare better that Mrs Hiseman a.k.a Barbara Thompson.

She suffers from Parkinson disease, but fights against to produce some beautiful music. I particularly like the elpee below, but all her albums are of a high standard.



Perhaps Barbara's music is jazz for a non-jazzie person like me, but perhaps she is less well known than she should be by jazz aficionados.

Allmusic has a less than extensive bio British saxophonist plays straightahead, neo-bop, fusion, or funk. Incredible soloist. Unrealized potential waiting for the right break. America would love her.

ATB Rotf

please read this.
I know know you dont understand Norwegian, but try to read the band names. This is whats going on in Norway. Please google the naims of the groups here
http://www.grenlandjazz.no/historikk.php

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Originally posted by munch:
What would this album be classed as Jazz/blues??

He does look a bit like Larry Grayson - not that helps in trying to answer your question - sort of R n B I guess.

Mike - here is a newly published article in the UK publication Jazz Journal that will give you some insight into the ECM label.

http://www.jazzjournal.co.uk/U...20Open.pdf#view=fitH

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Originally posted by mikeeschman
As for Coleman and Parker, I think I'm just shy of being able to write out charts for most (or at least many) of what they did. Charlie Parker is someone I think I can always predict the next note, on a tune I've never heard before.

Mike, I am puzzled that you wish to write out charts of what improvisational musicians play, is improvisation not at the heart of jazz? Is that not like trying to follow a football game by just looking at the telestartor overlays and graphics?

Each to their own though, however you wish to enjoy music.

I do agree with you that American jazz has got stuck over the last couple of decades, not so for the 70's though, but fusion is a specific taste, and not for everyone.

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Originally posted by JamieL_v2:

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Originally posted by mikeeschman
As for Coleman and Parker, I think I'm just shy of being able to write out charts for most (or at least many) of what they did. Charlie Parker is someone I think I can always predict the next note, on a tune I've never heard before.

Mike, I am puzzled that you wish to write out charts of what improvisational musicians play, is improvisation not at the heart of jazz? Is that not like trying to follow a football game by just looking at the telestartor overlays and graphics?

Each to their own though, however you wish to enjoy music.

I do agree with you that American jazz has got stuck over the last couple of decades, not so for the 70's though, but fusion is a specific taste, and not for everyone.

My point was not that I want to write out charts of what jazz musicians play. My point is that after listening for so long, I know what's coming next, and that knowledge is making the experience less enjoyable than it used to be.

So now I'm trying out some European jazz, which is unfamiliar to me, and I am hoping it shows me something different, so I can recapture the excitment I used to feel when a new jazz CD comes in the mail.

Fusion jazz is a mixed blessing. Jazz-Rock seems to me to be less satisfying than either rock or jazz, but latin-jazz fusion has a rhythmic vitality that benefits the music. Sadly these days, even the latin fusion jazz has become predictable.

This thread has already clarified one thing in my mind. I am not walking away from jazz. Somehow, my interest will get re-ignited.

At this point in my life, for music at least, I am picking up, not dropping off.

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Originally posted by Lontano:

Try some ECM - happy to give you some recommendations and listen to the band E.S.T. and see if you like it.

Couldn't agree more.

I am in a very happy place for music tonight.

Three new jazz albums are on the way, and I have no idea what they might be like.

In the meanwhile, I have been listening to Bach and John Cleary with his Absolute Monster Gentlemen. When I go back for more, I think it will be Berlioz.

I have an appetite for some jazz right now. I am going to let it build, then unleash it on the new music coming next week.

My eldest came in from San Diego Thursday, and her new boyfriend arrives tonight. They are in for two weeks :-)

We have been eating home cooking, but will now begin prowling the restaurants and clubs for a bit.

I love this forum.

The first new jazz album came this afternoon. Without preparation, I rushed upstairs and put it on. I listened intently for about 12 minutes.

The album is "Spiritual Unity", the Albert Ayler Trio, where Y represents " the rising spirit of man".

I must digress and bring up some other issues.

The first being mental illness. If you have observed the manner in which it progresses, its object at endgame is to totally isolate the victim. When mental illness is done with them, they will be alone. The erosion in self begins with a lack of empathy for what you love. Then nature follows its course, and it grows.

A second important concept is more immediate. We talk about keys, meters, rhythms, harmonic progressions, dynamics, instrumentation, venue and many other musical things, but not often acknowledge that each of these things is an emotional value, a feeling, and that the act of listening is an emotional accept and respond ritual.

You hear, and respond by emoting. The emotions that resonate in you came from the music. Those keys and meters have specific emotional meaning. You are being talked to when you listen. Of course you respond ...

The Albert Ayler Trio assaulted my soul with the sense of hopeless desperation common to all mental illness, and it did it everywhere. I felt those emotions, as if it was me.

If that's your cup of tea, give this one a listen. On an intensity scale of 1 to 10, it rates about an 89.5.

All my favorite music is hopeful.

What emotional qualities do you have an appetite for in your music?

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All my favorite music is hopeful.

I have no use for any other sort ...

Mike, you could do well to check out this thread. Some interesting European jazz.
http://forums.naim-audio.com/e...042908627#4042908627

Mike

Not all Jazz but where not, interesting music you could dip into.

Joe Zawinul & The Zawinul Syndicate - Vienna Nights - recorded 2004
The Larry Goldings Trio - As One
Franco Ambrosetti w Uri Caine Trio - The Wind
Astor Piazzolla -Tango Zero Hour
The Yellowjackets - Twenty Five
Barbara Dennerlein - In a silent mood
Brad Mehldau - Live in Tokyo
Ali Farka Toure & Toumani Diabate - In the Heart of the Moon.
Michael Galasso - High Lines
Stefano Bollani - Piano Solo
John van der Veer - The Ark
Alboran Trio - Near Gale
Michael Gibbs w Joachim Kuhn - Europeana
John Lewis - Evolution II
Gyorgy Kurtag - Jatekok
Bebo & Cigala - Lagrimas Negras

regards
Geoff

best jazz album of the year.
closely followed by

Simon Drake, what is the name of the second album (closely followed by) ?

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Originally posted by mikeeschman:
Simon Drake, what is the name of the second album (closely followed by) ?

It's Portico Quartet - Isla - not my fave of the year but growing in popularity over here.

"Jazz is not dead...it just smells funny..." - FZ

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Originally posted by mikeeschman:
All my favorite music is hopeful.

What emotional qualities do you have an appetite for in your music?

Glad you liked it Mike

No I want it all Mike (and I want it now!), I want music to make me angry, make me happy, the full range of human emotion - the same with books. The spectrum of human emotions...it's the wonder of it all.

Well it upset me so much I went out for drinks at my favorite bar with my future son-in-law and we got shit faced,

Now we are going to "Ralph's on the Park" for dinner, which is currently the best restaurant in all of New Orleans :-)