Cycling on pavements

Especially in this City that has mega miles of excellent bike lanes all over the place. The wankers drive me bloody nuts, I've4 no problems with really young kids, but arrogant mothers with their kids, etc, and older lads & lassies flying about like the wind is downright crazy. They have the audacity here to say the bike lanes are too dangerous because of daft car drivers.

Fritz Von Try walking on a bike lane (red path of footpath usually) and see what verbal bollox comes from the very same people, even riding in the wróng direction, mainly bloody single Gobshite mothers, I'm well happy I'm single (as most of them of are too unsuprisingly), the next lot of kids though, what a bunch they're gonna be ?

P.S. Some years back I worked with senior citizens (some really old ones too) either walking or wheelchairs down the very same footpaths, and sometimes it really was seriously dangerous with these bloody cylists. Cops here seem to be afraid of them as well (besides the classic road stop and check stuff, lights etc), there were times when one flew by behind me so close that if I'd moved slightly and the oldie had been hit, they would be dead or seriously injured, and that's no exaggeration. These bloody arrogant ignorant mothers thouigh are really the worst (don't see many Dads pulling the same stunt ???).

I was born in Islington, but I don't recall Lycra, Uuugh²

Where I work (Livingston) local bylaws are in place making it legal to cycle on the pavements - so it's not always illegal.

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Originally posted by Berlin Fritz:
Fritz Von Try walking on a bike lane (red path of footpath usually) and see what verbal bollox comes from the very same people

Can I invite you to try that on a cycle lane near me please?

I heard it's part of the new military special forces training in UK ?


Fritz Von The Queen visits Guernsey tommorow I do hope my bother's cleaned his windows and taken his Man Utd Flag down from the pole ?

You can see it now .....

Gatsos on the pavement nicking anyone doing more than 7 mph.

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Where I work (Livingston) local bylaws are in place making it legal to cycle on the pavements - so it's not always illegal.

I'm intrigued how a bylaw (or secondary law instituted by a local authority) can countermand Statutory Law.

Section 72 of the Highways Act 1835 provides that a person shall be guilty of an offence if he: "shall wilfully ride upon any footpath or causeway by the side of any road made or set apart for the use or accommodation of foot-passengers or shall wilfully lead or drive any carriage of any description upon any such footpath or causeway". Section 85 of the Local Government Act 1888 extends the definition of "carriage" to include "bicycles, tricycles, velocipedes and other similar machines".

Note: The object of Section 72 Highways Act 1835 was intended not to protect all footpaths, but only footpaths or causeways by the side of a road.

On 1st August 1999, new legislation came into force to allow a £20 fixed penalty notice (FPN) to be served on anyone who is cycling on the pavement. The new regulation clears up an anomaly where only some police forces could issue FPNs because pavement cycling was defined as an offence under a local by-law. Offenders will not face on-the-spot fines; they will have 28 days to pay.

Doug

I have been stopped by a constibule for using a skateboard on the pavement and reminded verbally of British Law. It would seem to extend to the point where it is probably illegal to have a pram or wheelchair on the aforsaid surface if push came to shove.

I'd like to see these biking bandits trying to ride on the pavement on my trike!

I was nearly mown down by a rather gorgeous blonde on a bicycle while I was walking innocently on the cycle lane soon after moving over here. The cycle lanes are often part of the pavement delineated by surface markings often invisible to aliens like myself.

Anyway, she shouted the intenationally-recognised verbal warning: "Hello-hello-HELLO!! Then braked violently as I turned much too slowly. She then ran into my knee with her front tyre (tire). Ow-ow-ow!

Inertia can be quite wonderful innit? Just a shame she didn't have her bumpers nearer to the front of the bike. As a sort of advance(d) crumple zone. All in all it was a memorable collision. Though not one I will willingly repeat.

Nime

Nime, me old Pastry, I think you're 'cyclepaths' are very similar to ours over here, the biggest danger besides these crazy bloody women, are when a freshly parked car sheds its load ? Yes, young kids clamber out, before the parents sometimes, run onto the pavement (cycle path in-between) so it's a paradox in a a way (if you get my meaning, as they're going away from the actual road as instilled in most kids). A speeding bike hits the kid (as has happened here often) causing all sorts of arguments, as one can imagine, about who's in the right, etc, (you must slow down near bus stops), though some of these accidents have been fatal, in that the kid has been killed, the argument often given by the manic Mums who justify themselves by endangering every other bugger, including other kids ???


Fritz Von Fine them to buggery or make them take a test and a licence/insurance a big point too naturally

Mind you, if I possesssed a top of the range well expensive super dooper push-bike like some of you cheps, I'd be well worried about scratching it on some mucky council house kid, innit.

Fritz Von Home on der range

A few carefully timed car-door openings might usefully decimate the ranks of these pavement bandits. A few quick deaths and the resulting publicity would concentrate the minds of these perps quite wonderfully. A sort of instant earwicker-style justice.

People, apart from suitably supervised little children, should not cycle on pavements. They should use bicycles.

Most memorable part for me of recent UK General do-not-bother-to-turn-out-and-vote occurrence was an enterprising Green Party canvasser here in Bristol suitably cycling ON ROAD with megaphone apparently powered by rear-mounted white-propellor generator. I had already voted for some other party. Here in Bristol it seems to be a popular pastime for people willy-nilly to cycle on pavement past main Central Bridewell police-station. I go in to ask police-lady at desk if this is legal, and she confirms that it is illegal. Possibly new UK government will as they have suggested now try to help everyone be nice to each other.

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I have a good friend (who is more in-your-face than me) and who has quite deliberately shoulderered passing pavement cyclists and sent them flying. A bit more 'direct action' that I could stomach but I increasingly see his way as being legitimate.

he'd want to be a little careful about that - think of the consequences of sending one into a post or a passing car.

I never ride on the footpath and but I can see why people do - every second git in a motor vehicle seems to want to kill you. Perhaps the police your calling for should make the roads safer for cyclists instead of just telling us to go and get f*cked? (8 reports including 3 accidents and not a single charge laid against any of the offending motorists)

BAN ALL CARS FROM THE UK PRONTO

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Originally posted by charliestumpy:
Here in Bristol it seems to be a popular pastime for people willy-nilly to cycle on pavement past main Central Bridewell police-station.

What a coincidence! The prostitutes hang around the police station in Odense. There must be a message in there somewhere?

Sex is safer on a bicycle near a police station?

On a bicycle built for two? certainly!

I didn't bloody well get where I am today by cycling on the pavement !

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Arrogant twats.

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I told him to "foxtrot oscar, I pay for these roads by Road Fund License and Excise duty. Do you?"

no you don't, you arrogant twat. Roads are paid for out of either council tax or general revenue, depending on the type of road. Further more there is no such thing as a 'road fund license', what you pay is a MOTOR vehicle excise - ie you're being taxed for the privilege of driving a MOTOR vehicle on PUBLIC roads.

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the kind who sail straight through red traffic lights,

I see numerous cars do this every day. Funny how people like you don't complain about that - which is the more dangerous do you think?

As both a cyclist and a petrolhead I have to say that I have some sympathy for those who cycle slowly and responsibly on pavement. Since moving down South I have myself resorted to doing this on occasion simply because the roads in some areas are such incredibly dangerous places to be and cycling provision is so appalling.

Many motorists frequantly squeeze past cyclists leaving so little room that if I stuck my foot out I would definately be able to kick their doors. This is not acceptable and is particularly common on narrow urban roads and those roads where they have squeezed in 4 lanes where there should be two.

As a cyclist you have three options:

1. Cycle reasonably tight into the verge and endure the fact that one in 30 cars will pass so close you will be in fear of your life.
2. Dominate the road and leave the motorists to curse you
3. Use the pavement carefully

The solution I would prefer is for the Government to put a lot more money into dedicated cycling lanes (heck - I'd even pay more tax for it!) Alternatively maybe they could stop building bloody sleeping policemen and stupid chicanes everywhere and channel the cash into cycling provision.

Jonathan

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The solution I would prefer is for the Government to put a lot more money into dedicated cycling lanes (heck - I'd even pay more tax for it!)

be careful what you wish for. Dedicated lanes tend to be designed for people who ride at 5mph, covered in broken glass (amongst other crap) and far more dangerous than riding on the road as other road users are even more oblivious (if that's possible) while crossing them.

About a funny as having a needle/dogshit free kiddies sandpit in a London play area.


Fritz Von Get a life

Its not the cyclists riding on the pavement that cause accidents, it’s the pedestrians walking on the road.

Quite a few of these morons have stepped out infront of me. If they cant hear a motor vehicle they think it is safe to cross without looking.

I didn't know kids in Angola are still often burnt alive, accused of being witches, did you ?

Fritz Von BBC World Service Today, Put me right off of my tea so it did, "Raindrops Keep Fallin on my Head"

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PS - you are a cyclist, right? Dont bother, I've already heard enough

I am both a cyclist and a driver. I take both very seriously. Fair enough if people want to sort out the behaviour of cyclists - AFTER they take care of their own. Glass houses and all.
How many red lights have you run this week?


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I suppose I should point out that I would like to see all cyclists obeying the rules as much as the next person but as I've pointed out earlier I believe the poor road sense of most motorists is far more life threatening and fixing that should take priority.

Of course US & European/Russian/Chinese made landmines get trodden on every 20 minutes on average (NOW) so that's a thought ?

Fritz Von I wouldn't trust half of you lot walkin, never mind being in charge of deadly weapons on the pubic highways, innit

There is no glass or litter on the Danish cycle lanes. Though they were a litle slow in removing this year's snow drifts from the cycle lanes. It must have taken at least another 24 hours beyond that required for the roads!

Why are the British such slobs? Couldn't they have an occasional funeral pyre of litter with randomly chosen "guys" selected from serial litterers?

Cyclists who use the pavements should be hung from lamp-posts by any available extremity.
I speak as a lifelong cyclist. Using the pavements for cycling truly disgusts me. As does littering.

Angry in Exile