Producers/Engineers

Posted by: u5227470736789524 on 14 June 2009

Often times I will check out an artist simply because of who has produced and/or engineered the release. These producers/engineers, just like an artist, can build a resume of quality that is often a path to new artist discoveries.
(note, Wikipedia is a useful tool for gathering these resumes)

Do you have any favorite producers/engineers ?

Several personal favorites:

Glyn Johns

Ethan Johns (Glyn's son) who works with numerous wonderful artists as both producer and musician

Bill Szymczyk (Eagles, Joe Walsh/James Gang, Brian Vander Ark and some guy named Michael Stanley)

Jeff A
Posted on: 14 June 2009 by Lontano
Manfred Eicher - founder, owner, creative genius, and producer for ECM Records
Posted on: 14 June 2009 by Mat Cork
Unsung hero's.

When I was a lad, we used to look at the scribble on the run-outs of LPs. Strawberry was written on lots of em, no idea if it was person or a place (I accept it could be a fruit) but it became something of a quality stamp. "Have you heard the 12" of Youngblood, it's a Strawberry, wicked"
Posted on: 14 June 2009 by Voltaire
quote:
Originally posted by Jeff Anderson:
Do you have any favorite producers/engineers ?
Jeff A


Jack Frost (Dylan)
Rick Rubin (his work with Cash & Diamond is great, Metallica... Confused )
Mike Clink (G & R)
Dave Stewart
Daniel Lanois

Quincy Jones in the old days

and Phil Spector on good days

to name a few.
Posted on: 14 June 2009 by fatcat
.Ted Templeman
Posted on: 15 June 2009 by JohanR
quote:
Several personal favorites:

Glyn Johns

Ethan Johns (Glyn's son) who works with numerous wonderful artists as both producer and musician

Bill Szymczyk (Eagles, Joe Walsh/James Gang, Brian Vander Ark and some guy named Michael Stanley)


We seem to like the same here, Jeff!

Particulary likes the ones Glyn Johns did with Joan Armatrading in the late 1970's.

Also fond of guys like Tom Dowd and Tommy LiPuma.

JohanR
Posted on: 15 June 2009 by mjamrob
Robert Ludwig - Led Zeppelin (States), Jimi Hendrix

Bill Laswell - Last Exit, Shannon Jackson


mat
Posted on: 15 June 2009 by John M
Chips Moman and the American Sound Studios
Al Kooper
Jerry Wexler
Arif Mardin
Tom Dowd
Geoff Emerick
Butch Vig
Steve Lillywhite
Brian Wilson
Posted on: 15 June 2009 by Guido Fawkes
Eddy Offord
George Martin
Posted on: 15 June 2009 by DenisA
Gary Katz
Todd Rundgren
Calum Malcolm
Posted on: 15 June 2009 by Kevin-W
Martin Hannett.
Posted on: 15 June 2009 by Westcoastman
The Joe Boyd and John Woods team should not go unmentioned.
Posted on: 16 June 2009 by Analogue
Neil Dorfman
Posted on: 17 June 2009 by 555
An everyday tale of how a record can be ruined (& salvaged) ...



I'm really pleased this is coming out again.
It's called Don't Stand Me Down (Director's Cut) because this is the third time it's been released ('85, '97 and now).
Of the two previous releases, '85 was the original release and '97 was the Creation CD release.
Unfortunately, at the time of mastering the '97 effort, an awful sonic mistake was made.
During the mastering sessions, we had made sure the tapes sounded good and tweaked it so that the natural dynamics that were intended to be there when the music was written, shone through.

Then the engineer said to me right at the end of the whole process:
"Kevin, my final suggestion is to put a bit of this stereo enhancer on to finish it off."
"What's a stereo enhancer?" I asked.
"Oh, its just something that makes it louder, nothing else."
"Well, let me hear it" I said.
On listening to it, I suspected that the music had been subtly altered, and said so to the engineer "No."
He said "Trust me on this one Kevin. All it will do is make your record louder.
Every modern record has this on it now.
In fact, if you don't have it, your record will sound quieter than everyone else's."

I trusted him. But even when I got the test copy home and suspected strongly that the stereo enhancer had affected the music unfavourably, I put it down to my own sometimes obsessive over-pickiness. I lived to regret not speaking up. It gently gnawed away at me and I continued to doubt my own judgement until a few weeks after it had been released. Pete Schwier (the sound genius behind My Beauty and the man who mixed DSMD) phoned me up and said: "I've just heard it - is that a stereo enhancer on there?"

I was so disappointed, after going to a lot of trouble to get the record from Mercury and then getting Creation to put it out, etc, etc, etc. That effect had ruined the dynamics. It sounded OK, but not nearly as effective as it should have done, no where near as good as the record we made, and I felt bad about that. Stereo enhancers create a wash of sound but destroy subtlety. If your aim is to hit the listener over the head then a stereo enhancer is the thing. Groups such as Oasis use them to better effect, but such treatment is very wrong for my Famous Dixons. So here is the Director's cut. It now sounds to me as it was intended to sound.


Kevin Rowland talking about 'Don't Stand Me Down' from Dexy's Midnight Runners Discography.

I believe what is referred to as a "stereo enhancer" in this piece is more commonly known as a compressor.
I have the DSMD '97 & Director's Cut CDs in my collection & the sonic difference is staggering.
Posted on: 17 June 2009 by mjamrob
Nice little story 555 - I wonder how many recordings are ruined this way?

regards,

mat
Posted on: 17 June 2009 by BigH47
You get plenty of posts here regarding the "loudness" wars.
Posted on: 17 June 2009 by mjamrob
quote:
You get plenty of posts here regarding the "loudness" wars.


You're right - it was 'stereo enhancer' that fooled me. Interesting story nonetheless.

I can't see how any artist who is interested in the quality of his/her music would be interested in using one.

regards,

mat
Posted on: 17 June 2009 by Patrick F
The Lord-Alge brothers

Jake Nicley

Nigel Goodrich
Posted on: 17 June 2009 by 555
In my Dexys excitement I forgot to name my favourites ...

Barry Diament

Steve Hoffman

Adrian Sherwood
Posted on: 18 June 2009 by syd
quote:
Originally posted by Sootycat:
The Joe Boyd and John Woods team should not go unmentioned.


Have to second this, have you read Joe Boyd's book "White Bicycle's", absolutely brilliant. He puts a lot of the Witchseason Productions quality down to John Woods engineering skills and Sound Techniques studio.

Felix Pappalardi
Mike Vernon.
Posted on: 18 June 2009 by MilesSmiles
Many great names. Cool
Posted on: 18 June 2009 by SC
Nigel Goodrich.
Posted on: 19 June 2009 by Analogue
Mark Knopfler
Posted on: 23 June 2009 by reubs1981
Bernie Grundman's mastering skills. He works on A LOT of stuff.
Posted on: 23 June 2009 by Analogue
Doug Sax
Posted on: 23 June 2009 by GraemeH
Rudy Van Gelder and whoever does Stina Nordenstam's recordings.

Both are generally a very safe bet for music and sq.

All IMHO of course!

Graeme