42" plasma recommendations
Posted by: david needham on 13 July 2006
The Pioneer PDP-436SXE is top of my list along with the Panasonic TH-42PX60. Budget is £2K approx. The rest of the system is yet to be decided - I've just placed my order with Sky.
However I believe there is a new Hitachi (the 42PD9700) that does 1080. Has anyone seen or compared this to the others? Is it worth the extra resolution at this size?
Any suggestions re quality, reliability etc would be appreciated.
Thanks, David
However I believe there is a new Hitachi (the 42PD9700) that does 1080. Has anyone seen or compared this to the others? Is it worth the extra resolution at this size?
Any suggestions re quality, reliability etc would be appreciated.
Thanks, David
Posted on: 13 August 2006 by nodrog
quote:Originally posted by SimonJ:
Rubbish, which planet do you live on?
Probably not the same planet as you, judging by your rude reply.
I honestly think the picture for just about every subject now happens to be better on LCD. I watched most of the World Cup on my LCD (all HDTV) and the picture really was great. I could see no evidence of smearing.
When I see a plasma display I tend to think of it as a slightly better version of the old CRT technology: a little bit fuzzy, a little bit analogue. Not quite there. for me. Nice blacks, though.
The new LCD ranges offer a better still image, plus, once you get the settings right and once it's been up and running for some time (note that small caveat) the picture equals the plasma and beats it for everyday viewing.
It just amuses me that every time the topic of 'display recommendations' comes up plasmas are lauded to the heavens while LCDs are dismissed out of hand. It's just not the case.
Maybe another thread is called for at this point.
All this IMHO, of course.
Posted on: 13 August 2006 by SimonJ
I'm sorry if you found my reply rude, it wasn't meant to be, it was more tongue in cheek.
I have seen many LCD and have seen (and owned) many plasmas. I regularly spend my weekends in HiFi shops and visit many shows. At home I have run all my plasmas via descent scalers and have always had them setup 1:1 pixel mapped etc. I can honestly say hand on heart that I have not seen an LCD to match my current Panasonic HD Panel (not TV) fed at native resolution from my DVDO iScan VP30 with extra ABT102 deinterlacing board. This is if fed from DVD, Satellite or DigiTV.
I do think that LCDs have come on leaps and bounds in the last few years and I am probably about to buy a 26” HD one for the bedroom and/or kitchen. I still maintain though that side by side I have not seen an LCD to match plasma yet and I also think that many LCDs are expensive when compared to plasma.
I have seen many LCD and have seen (and owned) many plasmas. I regularly spend my weekends in HiFi shops and visit many shows. At home I have run all my plasmas via descent scalers and have always had them setup 1:1 pixel mapped etc. I can honestly say hand on heart that I have not seen an LCD to match my current Panasonic HD Panel (not TV) fed at native resolution from my DVDO iScan VP30 with extra ABT102 deinterlacing board. This is if fed from DVD, Satellite or DigiTV.
I do think that LCDs have come on leaps and bounds in the last few years and I am probably about to buy a 26” HD one for the bedroom and/or kitchen. I still maintain though that side by side I have not seen an LCD to match plasma yet and I also think that many LCDs are expensive when compared to plasma.
Posted on: 13 August 2006 by scottyhammer
hi simonj,
i do tend to agree with nodrog in the fact that as you say in the past lcd left a lot to be desired in the larger screens anyway.
but they have caught up in every department now including price. you can pick up a 42" for around £1,500 now!
theres no motion blur and the picture quality can be superb ( when fed a good hd signal and set up correctly)
regards, scotty
i do tend to agree with nodrog in the fact that as you say in the past lcd left a lot to be desired in the larger screens anyway.
but they have caught up in every department now including price. you can pick up a 42" for around £1,500 now!
theres no motion blur and the picture quality can be superb ( when fed a good hd signal and set up correctly)
regards, scotty
Posted on: 13 August 2006 by SimonJ
No problem each to their own. I have no doubts that LCDs have come on. Half the IQ of any LCD or Plasma is down to the picture processing. An external scaler simply brings any TV/Panel up a notch or 5. I think we maybe comparing apples with oranges and I am in the wrong as the original post was upto a bugdet of £2k. I still stand by my statement though and disagree with the statement "LCD displays are a lot better than the equivalent size plasmas". I think some LCDs are good and some plasmas are good, I also have not yet seen an LCD as good as a good pixel mapped plasma driven by an external scaler. I think it's like comparing a Panasonic v Sharp getto blaster with a Naim CDX2!
Posted on: 13 August 2006 by scottyhammer
hi simonj,
yes this is very true! the same statements apply
let your ears decide - let your eyes decide.
as you say each to their own,but i would suggest you go have a look at the latest lcds by tosh sony samsung etc as they are very good.
scotty
yes this is very true! the same statements apply
let your ears decide - let your eyes decide.
as you say each to their own,but i would suggest you go have a look at the latest lcds by tosh sony samsung etc as they are very good.
scotty
Posted on: 16 August 2006 by Simon Perry
quote:Simon's comment about fading of colours and contrast at an angle just doesn't hold water
Hey I was talking about the new Toshibas, not other LCDs, for example the Sony V series bravias. I stand by my comment about the Toshiba LCDs, they show MASSIVE fading of colours when viewed off centre - that is one of the reasons they are so cheap compared to say the Sonys. Go see for yourself in any electrical shop. Its as clear as day!
Posted on: 16 August 2006 by Martin D
"I agree with Richard's views, and therefore disagree with Graham"
Huh? what did Graham say? Frank
Huh? what did Graham say? Frank
Posted on: 18 August 2006 by Spike
Hi Martin,
I basically said that the Pamasonic PHD 42 plasma panel is the best on the market at the price. in my opinion only the new Fujitsu 58 series betters it(at an extra £1000).
Check this review Panasonic PHD42
I basically said that the Pamasonic PHD 42 plasma panel is the best on the market at the price. in my opinion only the new Fujitsu 58 series betters it(at an extra £1000).
Check this review Panasonic PHD42
Posted on: 19 August 2006 by SimonJ
I concur with that...