Layla and other assorted love songs.
Posted by: garyi on 09 June 2002
Wow, what a fantastic album!
I picked this up today in really good condition for £5 and in my opinion every song on there is a winner, what a find.
This is the kind of Blues I find I love.
So did The Dominos do much more, and did cream come next or were they before?
I also picked up John Mayall and some memorable men, Back To The Roots.
This is currently playing, also really nice a little more 'funky' blues if you understand what I mean.
I am really chuffed with these two finds and can think of nothing better to play on a Sunday Afternoon.
Recommendations down the same lines please!
(I have Beano
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I picked this up today in really good condition for £5 and in my opinion every song on there is a winner, what a find.
This is the kind of Blues I find I love.
So did The Dominos do much more, and did cream come next or were they before?
I also picked up John Mayall and some memorable men, Back To The Roots.
This is currently playing, also really nice a little more 'funky' blues if you understand what I mean.
I am really chuffed with these two finds and can think of nothing better to play on a Sunday Afternoon.
Recommendations down the same lines please!
(I have Beano
)Posted on: 09 June 2002 by garyi
Oh just noticed that Sugarcane harris plays on the Roots album, he also played quite a bit with Zappa. Thought I recogised the sound
Posted on: 09 June 2002 by Former member
Cream came first. All their albums are superb and bluesy, the only real flaw being their long drum-solo track "Toad". Their final studio stuff was slightly more poppy, but no less fab for that.
Then came Blind Faith (a supergroup with Steve Winwood (Spencer Davis Group, Traffic), Ginger Baker (from Cream), Rik Grech (from Family) in 1969. They did one very good album (that's recently been remastered and with extra jam tracks added) then split.
Derek And The Dominooes was 1970. There's a live album that's pretty much a live version of Layla.
Then came Blind Faith (a supergroup with Steve Winwood (Spencer Davis Group, Traffic), Ginger Baker (from Cream), Rik Grech (from Family) in 1969. They did one very good album (that's recently been remastered and with extra jam tracks added) then split.
Derek And The Dominooes was 1970. There's a live album that's pretty much a live version of Layla.
Posted on: 09 June 2002 by herm
Well Gary,
obviously D & D came after Cream - I'm not into pop / rock, and even I can tell you this. After Cream there was this odd 'superband' Blind Faith, with Stevie Windwood and Clapton (correct me if I'm wrong) [at that time, say 1968, there were no bands, only superbands, just like there are no models, only supermodels] and after that Clapton went crazy and only surfaced with Layla, one of the very very few rock items I have. It's one of the most intense records around. People used to endlessly speculate who played which solo on what song, as I recall.
Herman
(The CD remaster ain't too bad either, though you miss the pictures in the sleeve, obviously.)
PS: Ah, Nick, you beat me by 50 seconds, didn't you?
obviously D & D came after Cream - I'm not into pop / rock, and even I can tell you this. After Cream there was this odd 'superband' Blind Faith, with Stevie Windwood and Clapton (correct me if I'm wrong) [at that time, say 1968, there were no bands, only superbands, just like there are no models, only supermodels] and after that Clapton went crazy and only surfaced with Layla, one of the very very few rock items I have. It's one of the most intense records around. People used to endlessly speculate who played which solo on what song, as I recall.
Herman
(The CD remaster ain't too bad either, though you miss the pictures in the sleeve, obviously.)
PS: Ah, Nick, you beat me by 50 seconds, didn't you?
Posted on: 09 June 2002 by garyi
Nick, care to enlighten me to the name of said album?
Just finished the Roots one, wonderful stuff.
I think this has been the best 15 quid I have spent in a long while. Got a Clapton one chucked in as well Backless, hoping its not as bad as Money & Cigarettes
Just finished the Roots one, wonderful stuff.
I think this has been the best 15 quid I have spent in a long while. Got a Clapton one chucked in as well Backless, hoping its not as bad as Money & Cigarettes
Posted on: 09 June 2002 by Former member
The Blind Faith album (there is only one) is called "Blind Faith" and features a controversial cover....
The live D & D is called "Live At The Fillmore".
Get any Cream albums you see cheap...
The live D & D is called "Live At The Fillmore".
Get any Cream albums you see cheap...
Posted on: 10 June 2002 by Former member
Gary,
Pardon me if this is a dumb question...uh...what Hendrix have you heard?
Given that you're getting into blues axemen then give either the Band Of Gypsies or Live At Fillmore East a try. The live album is especially fine with solos to rip the wallpaper off the walls - Machine Gun (which is currently driving my daughter mad at very very loud levels), Hear My Train A Comin' and the rest...
...good though Clapton was, IMO Hendrix makes him sound like the lead guitarist out of Showaddywaddy.
Pardon me if this is a dumb question...uh...what Hendrix have you heard?
Given that you're getting into blues axemen then give either the Band Of Gypsies or Live At Fillmore East a try. The live album is especially fine with solos to rip the wallpaper off the walls - Machine Gun (which is currently driving my daughter mad at very very loud levels), Hear My Train A Comin' and the rest...
...good though Clapton was, IMO Hendrix makes him sound like the lead guitarist out of Showaddywaddy.
Posted on: 10 June 2002 by garyi
Nick, if you can believe it I only have one non discript hendrix album, (one of those mixes of really really poor old recordings)
That is not of course to say I haven't heard him. My step dad really rates Hendrix, not only as a guitarist (of course) but also as a singer.
Alas the one notable tune I have heard is Red House recorded live somewhere, but I have nothing else.
Would it be fair to say that his earlier stuff is in the blues vein? Most of the music I remember is cross town traffic, all along the watch tower etc etc, which I don't really see as blues, although I do enjoy it.
That is not of course to say I haven't heard him. My step dad really rates Hendrix, not only as a guitarist (of course) but also as a singer.
Alas the one notable tune I have heard is Red House recorded live somewhere, but I have nothing else.
Would it be fair to say that his earlier stuff is in the blues vein? Most of the music I remember is cross town traffic, all along the watch tower etc etc, which I don't really see as blues, although I do enjoy it.
Posted on: 10 June 2002 by Former member
His earlier stuff is poppier, but there's blues spattered all across his works.
Those two I mentioned earlier are very bluesy, though with that special Hendrix rip-up-the-rulebook take on them that probably doesn't sound so revolutionary now that any number of people have copied him.
The Hendrix faily have done a good job of re-releasing stuff, especially things that were formerly only available on bootleg. There's an album called ":blues" that would do the trick for you too, though you would be incomplete without "Machine Gun". One of my favourite ways of chilling out after a stressful day is not to head straight for the calm stuff, but to whack Machine Gun on at top volume....such aggression in an anti-war song.
Those two I mentioned earlier are very bluesy, though with that special Hendrix rip-up-the-rulebook take on them that probably doesn't sound so revolutionary now that any number of people have copied him.
The Hendrix faily have done a good job of re-releasing stuff, especially things that were formerly only available on bootleg. There's an album called ":blues" that would do the trick for you too, though you would be incomplete without "Machine Gun". One of my favourite ways of chilling out after a stressful day is not to head straight for the calm stuff, but to whack Machine Gun on at top volume....such aggression in an anti-war song.
Posted on: 10 June 2002 by Chris Metcalfe
Just thought I'd pop in again right here to say that I actually SAW Derek and the Dominos live on their only British tour (Bristol, September 1970). Clapton was taking a lot of drugs (heroin, LSD), Duane Allman had decided he didn't want to play with them anymore after Layla, and most of the people I went with didn't much care for them as they didn't sound like Cream.
Of course, 2 years later, the Layla single was Top Ten, and the rest is geography.
Of course, 2 years later, the Layla single was Top Ten, and the rest is geography.
Posted on: 10 June 2002 by garyi
Finally Nick gets caught with a spelling mistake, I feel much better now!
Posted on: 10 June 2002 by Former member
Gah!
Damn those feet of clay (or should that be fingers?)...
Damn those feet of clay (or should that be fingers?)...
Posted on: 10 June 2002 by count.d
The recent "Family Hendrix" releases are superb. Most of his albums have been rereleased.
P.S. Nick,
How are the Obelisks running in?
Mine have done about 30 hours. They sound pretty special to me. Sometimes they sound poor, then they sound great. They also seem to need about 20 mins to warm up each session.
P.S. Nick,
How are the Obelisks running in?
Mine have done about 30 hours. They sound pretty special to me. Sometimes they sound poor, then they sound great. They also seem to need about 20 mins to warm up each session.
Posted on: 10 June 2002 by Former member
When you think of the mess that Hendix's recording's were in for so many years, it's such a relief that a coherent and competent release programme is there. I want more!
P.S. The Obs are just wonderful. They've done about 100 hours (I haven't been counting, just listening!). I had a wobbly couple of days last week when they went all glassy on me, but they soon came back on song!
One of my best upgrades EVER.
P.S. The Obs are just wonderful. They've done about 100 hours (I haven't been counting, just listening!). I had a wobbly couple of days last week when they went all glassy on me, but they soon came back on song!
One of my best upgrades EVER.
Posted on: 10 June 2002 by bdnyc
It is hard to imagine, at least for my generation of rock fans, how important "Layla" was. I find it cool that you are exploring this music in 2002, nearly thirty years after the initial release. "Layla" does not truely have many peers in the whole of guitar rock, but here are a few albums that on some level may be said to be similar.
1) Boz Scaggs- "Boz Scaggs"- Atlantic Records. This 1969 album was Boz's debut album, and featured Duanne Allman on guitar, most notably on the long build up song "Loan Me A Dime".
2) Eric Clapton- "Eric Clapton"- Polydor Records 1970. His solo debut, which is perhaps the closest in feel to Layla, although not the equal by any means.
3) Duane Allman- "Anthology"- Offers a good overview of Duane's all too brief career.
4) Stevie Ray Vaughan- "The Sky Is Crying" and his other albums can be seen to update some of this style.
5) Van Moorison- "Saint Dominic's Preview"- Not an obvious choice, but it captures some of the soulfulness of Van's music in an era when his backing bands were more R&B inspired than pop in feel.
Happy hunting in those musty old vaults!
1) Boz Scaggs- "Boz Scaggs"- Atlantic Records. This 1969 album was Boz's debut album, and featured Duanne Allman on guitar, most notably on the long build up song "Loan Me A Dime".
2) Eric Clapton- "Eric Clapton"- Polydor Records 1970. His solo debut, which is perhaps the closest in feel to Layla, although not the equal by any means.
3) Duane Allman- "Anthology"- Offers a good overview of Duane's all too brief career.
4) Stevie Ray Vaughan- "The Sky Is Crying" and his other albums can be seen to update some of this style.
5) Van Moorison- "Saint Dominic's Preview"- Not an obvious choice, but it captures some of the soulfulness of Van's music in an era when his backing bands were more R&B inspired than pop in feel.
Happy hunting in those musty old vaults!
Posted on: 11 June 2002 by steveb
You will find tracks from the incomplete second album on the Clapton boxset Crossroads.
Interesting fact- Layla was a flop on initial release, Clapton wanted it kept quiet his involvement thinking it would sell anyway, only when record company publicised heavily this fact did it start to sell, then re-released it and hey-presto ,big seller.
Anyone know of other instances of "stars" quietly releasing material which initially flopped (possibly Bowie) ?
Steve
Interesting fact- Layla was a flop on initial release, Clapton wanted it kept quiet his involvement thinking it would sell anyway, only when record company publicised heavily this fact did it start to sell, then re-released it and hey-presto ,big seller.
Anyone know of other instances of "stars" quietly releasing material which initially flopped (possibly Bowie) ?
Steve
Posted on: 11 June 2002 by garyi
Thanks for the recommendations. I have been dipping my toes into this vast ocean for a while and have The eric clapton one on the simply vinyl, infact I seem to be 'closing' Clapton down thanks to his apparant unpopularity and a wealth of second hand vinyl (possibly linked)
I also have a couple of SRV as well and am keeping an eye out for it.
Good stuff
I also have a couple of SRV as well and am keeping an eye out for it.
Good stuff
Posted on: 10 July 2002 by Former member
Hav a listen to EC Was Here - a live album from the Seventies containing some excellent bluesy performances.
Posted on: 12 July 2002 by Peter C
Check out Key to the Highway, with Clapton and Duane Allman swopping licks
Posted on: 27 July 2002 by garyi
To say I just got Whipped Cream by the cream, f***ing good album.
Bye
Bye
Posted on: 28 July 2002 by garyi
Ha! Sorry that should be Fresh Cream. Apparently their first one.
They also had one in the shop with a a weird colourful cover, which I was late informed may have been the better bet, so I will hope its their next time. Good stuff.
They also had one in the shop with a a weird colourful cover, which I was late informed may have been the better bet, so I will hope its their next time. Good stuff.
Posted on: 28 July 2002 by Former member
"Whipped Cream". Maybe that'd be a good title for a Cream Remixes album!
"Fresh Cream" is the bluesiest of their studio albums. "Disraeli Gears" (the multi-coloured second album), is more psychedelic whilst retaining that bluesy feel, and apart from the east-enders joke track "Mother's Lament" is uniformly brilliant.
You can confidently snaffle anything you see by Cream. Live or studio they were brill.
"Fresh Cream" is the bluesiest of their studio albums. "Disraeli Gears" (the multi-coloured second album), is more psychedelic whilst retaining that bluesy feel, and apart from the east-enders joke track "Mother's Lament" is uniformly brilliant.
You can confidently snaffle anything you see by Cream. Live or studio they were brill.