A Night in Beckenham – The Silence of the Lambs

Posted by: David Hobbs-Mallyon on 08 October 2002

For those that saw our previous report ‘A Night out in Tunbridge Wells 2’, you may remember some debate between Nick Lees, Dave J and myself as to whether Tom Alves’ SBLs really did bass.

Firstly Tom has decided to tip the balance his way by upgrading from passive NAP180 to active NAP250s. That’s the effect that these evenings can have.

Secondly, we all came to the conclusion that we needed to hear what a pair of Naim’s ultimate loudspeaker, the DBLs could do in a well set up system, rather than a show environment. Fortunately for us, John Sheridan and Gizmogirl came to the rescue and very kindly allowed four strangers into their house for an evening of music. Out of the window went the tasteful music – we (OK I’m speaking for myself now) wanted to hear what DBLs were really capable of. I’m not sure relations with the neighbours will be quite so cordial from now on……

The Sheridan/Gizmogirl system consists of 52/NAP500/DBLs – being fed by LP12/ARO/Armageddon/Dynavector Cartridge and CDX.

The first thing that catches your eye when you enter the room is the sheer physical presence of the DBLs. They are BIG – I’ve seen comments about them discretely sitting at the edges of room - I can’t quite imagine it myself. Having said that, I think they look great. Just like my preference for the old style design, I’m probably in a minority – and I’m sure the days of the DBL are numbered as and when Naim develops a sleeker, curvier and pricier replacement.

Just as previous, prior to listening to any music, we all scrupulously checked system environment and set-up.

Room – Probably on the near limits of what DBLs can work in – I’d guess about 18ft by 12ft, firing down the smaller dimension. The walls were fairly bare, but John/Gizmo had a sneaky room tuning trick up their sleeve. Around the room were somewhere between 20-30 strategically placed cuddly sheep and lambs of various sizes, as well as a cuddly Pingu and Gizmo (just to confuse matters). Gizmo also mentioned some dealings with Peter Belt, so I’d assume that all the cuddly toys have been blessed, or had their toe-nails painted red or something.

Rack – Having gone to foreign lands outside Tunbridge Wells we had left Hutter county. 52 and CDX on Naim Fraim, the rest on Target stands.

Electrics – System uses Naim’s Australian mains cables going into an Aussie mains adaptor. Why? Because Australian mains cables don’t have fuses in and sound better. I’m sure Mr Dales has some explanation for this anomaly based on the direction of the earth’s gravitational field or the rotation of water down his bath plughole. We wait in anticipation.

Warm-up – this time we went for a range of opinions based on alcohol consumption, ranging from sober (Mr Lees, Dave J), slightly tipsy (Mr Sheridan, Gizmo), getting there (me) to Tom who went off the measurable scale.

Anyway we spent the next 5 hours throwing an even broader range of music than usual at the system. Mr Lees will provide the complete list of music played, so I will avoid comment on the music and how the DBLs played it until then. When the neighbours complained at 10.00pm (how unreasonable is that), the surprise package was that pairs of IBLs and SBLs were also brought out for comparison.

So to the system – I was expecting DBLs to do scale – on this they certainly deliver – in fact it’s fair to say on this they are absolutely awesome. What I had doubt about ahead of the demo was would they also do depth – I was surprised that yes they do indeed do depth very convincingly. Do they image – frankly not hugely, although, I think the answer may have been different if the room was twice as big. Driven by the 500 they are also as fast as SBLs, but these beasts really move air. No doubts here about whether they do bass or not – this bass is very physical. Was there a down side (there always has to be)? Well for me, yes a minor one. It was something that I wasn’t expecting, but the DBL is a surprisingly refined loudspeaker, and sometimes I wanted just a bit more grunt. I have a feeling this may have been more down to the restrictions of the room – of course I’m highly susceptible to any offers of demos to prove me wrong on this. Anyway, could I live with this speaker – err yes please – if only I had the space. Also, the pair we listened to was bought second hand at a ridiculously cheap price, so it certainly made them astounding value for the lucky owners. Also a revelation for me was the IBLs driven by the NAP500 – personally I preferred these to the SBLs, although I guess the SBLs require more careful set-up. Anyway, a good pair of IBLs has to be one of the best second hand bargains around if you have the right room for them.

So, many thanks to John and Gizmo for the hospitality – it’s a pleasure to be able to remember the whole evening, unlike last time. I’ll write some more on the music when Nick provides the track listing.

David

[This message was edited by David Hobbs-Mallyon on TUESDAY 08 October 2002 at 14:10.]
Posted on: 10 October 2002 by John Sheridan
quote:
See the attachment I sent to you when you were a girlie.


you wouldn't want that accidentally finding its way into the public domain smile
Posted on: 11 October 2002 by herm
Riders, Rattle, Rock

The Concertgebouw is fairly small hall (seating 2000, if I'm correct), so these celebrity concerts are sold out in a flash, and I was on holidays when the tickets were selling. I'll be missing the Haitink Mahler 4 + Mozart tonight (with the RCO) as well.

In addition I forgot to listen to the radio broadcast, even though there'd been a announcement on the arts pages that day. Probably some subconscious reluctance holding me back - my scepsis at Rattle the Redeemer of Classical.

The reviews were good, though I didn't get the impression the reviewers encountered great metaphysical depths in the Rattle Bruckner. One said the orchestra was too loud for this hall. Another one noted with interest Rattle is merely assisting the orchestra, adding touches rather than leading them.

Earlier I'd read a review in the New Yorker about Rattle in Berlin. According to this critic (Alex Ross) the Mahler 5 first concert (recorded and rushed to the stores in London and Berlin now apparently) was not too interesting, but the Schubert Nine a week later was fabulous. He also noted Rattle is the current greatest Haydn conductor - not Pinnock, not Harnoncourt, but Rattle. Any comments anyone?

And let me know what the concert tonight is like. I'm curious.

About the T W Riders riding the Channel. It's not so much the substance abuse and the porn I'm worried about. I deal with those on a daily basis. It's those whacko playlists that scare me, and a bunch of perfectly well-adjusted middle-aged men trashing their non-existent air guitars to the sound of bands whose names I have never even heard of (let alone their musical output).

And I'm not worried about the neighbours: my music room is pretty much detached from the house. I'm worried about my good self and my ability to handle more than thirty seconds of Bloody Cranberry.

So if the Riders wish to get raucously drunk to the sound of a Mozart string quartet and some Wohl Tempered Clavier - (not Gould, obviously, but the real harpsichord thing, just come on over. Did I say come? I mean ride.

Herman
Posted on: 11 October 2002 by David Hobbs-Mallyon
Herman,

The announcer on Radio 3 went completely overboard ahead of the concert saying how much respect the Berlin Phil already has for Rattle and how his interpretation of Bruckner 9 is up there with Furtwangler and Karajan. For some reason the transmission of the concert sounded a bit compressed which was a disappointment considering it was the first live concert with my new aerial. I was a bit bemused by the performance - not really sure what to make of it at all. Rattle usually picks one BIG moment in a piece, and the climax to the Adagio was tremendous. Anyway, I'm off to hear it live tonight, so will report in the Bruckner thread.

Would love to ride over at some point. However, Nick is trying to wean himself on to the piano. A night of harpsichord may damage all the good progress he has been making.

David
Posted on: 11 October 2002 by herm
quote:
Originally posted by David Hobbs-Mallyon:
The announcer on Radio 3 went completely overboard ahead of the concert saying how much respect the Berlin Phil already has for Rattle and how his interpretation of Bruckner 9 is up there with Furtwangler and Karajan.


This same disconcerting preemptive P.R. technique was used ahead of the first Berlin performance of the Mahler Fifth, where the audience was handed leaflets saying that this superfantastic interpretation of the Fifth was going to be recorded and in the stores before they were back home.

Please let us know how it was tonight; I'm sure it'll be an exciting concert.

Herman
Posted on: 14 October 2002 by herm
air hurdy-gurdy is fine. What freaks me out is non-existent air hurdy-gurdy.

Herman
Posted on: 14 October 2002 by David Hobbs-Mallyon
Guys, perhaps we should stop this thread before it gets any more embarrasing.

David