The Sign Of The Beast!
Posted by: djftw on 07 June 2008
Strange how you notice things like that. Anyone else got examples?
Posted on: 08 June 2008 by Jono 13
Well some do say that Bill G is the anti-christ. Don't see it myself, his company helped to move away from the centralised, non-inclusive world of the main-frame.
Jono
Jono
Posted on: 08 June 2008 by Guido Fawkes
quote:Well some do say that Bill G is the anti-christ. Don't see it myself
Well (said in a Sven Goran Ericsson type voice) how do you explain the horns and tail then?
Posted on: 08 June 2008 by Jono 13
good point, well made.
Jono
Jono
Posted on: 08 June 2008 by PJT
quote:Originally posted by Jono 13:
Well some do say that Bill G is the anti-christ. Don't see it myself, his company helped to move away from the centralised, non-inclusive world of the main-frame.
Jono
Jono, isn't it strange how the computer world is once again moving back to centralised data centres and servers...
Posted on: 09 June 2008 by Derek Wright
perhaps because there is a real need for 99.999% availability and control instead of distributed anarchy
Posted on: 09 June 2008 by Chris Kelly
Well said Derek. Can't imagine your background! 
The centralised, non-inclusive (not sure what that means Jono) has enjoyed a resurgence since IBM sank a couple of billions of dollars into revitalising it a few years ago. There are really no better ways yet available to handle huge volumes of transactions on a daily basis. I have one customer whose central billing system handles 300 million transactions a day. Try doing that on any Gates-derives system!

The centralised, non-inclusive (not sure what that means Jono) has enjoyed a resurgence since IBM sank a couple of billions of dollars into revitalising it a few years ago. There are really no better ways yet available to handle huge volumes of transactions on a daily basis. I have one customer whose central billing system handles 300 million transactions a day. Try doing that on any Gates-derives system!
Posted on: 09 June 2008 by Chris Kelly
Gates-derived even!
Posted on: 09 June 2008 by Derek Wright
Chris
I have not had a VM logon for nearly 8 years now and as for an MVS or whatever it morphed into it has been 20 years since I had a logon id.
I have not had a VM logon for nearly 8 years now and as for an MVS or whatever it morphed into it has been 20 years since I had a logon id.
Posted on: 10 June 2008 by Jono 13
Centralised, non-inclusive means a small number of usually social knuckle draggers keeping their "babies" away from the everyday workers.
As an example if you look to my working world without PCs the CAD revolution would not have happened.
I do agree that a centralised data store model is good, but centralised processing is less attractive as each extra node accessing the data set needs a significant increase in server power. This is particularly accute in the CAD world of processor intensive applications.
Also I remember the (in)famous quote by Ken Olsen(?) of DEC in the mid to late '70's saying something like "I can never see the need for a computer on everyone's desk". How wrong can you be?
Jono
As an example if you look to my working world without PCs the CAD revolution would not have happened.
I do agree that a centralised data store model is good, but centralised processing is less attractive as each extra node accessing the data set needs a significant increase in server power. This is particularly accute in the CAD world of processor intensive applications.
Also I remember the (in)famous quote by Ken Olsen(?) of DEC in the mid to late '70's saying something like "I can never see the need for a computer on everyone's desk". How wrong can you be?
Jono