Gunnar´s got a cdx

Posted by: Gunnar Jansson on 20 November 2002

Hi!
Bought a cdx a week ago.
Couldn´t hold back anymore.
What a player!
Straight out of the box, cold and just hooked it up. Superb.
Eventhough my ´3 was good the ´x is just so much better in every aspect.

What puzzels me is just one thing.

The player rocks slightly when placed on the mana shelf.
The shelf is absolutely level, no doubt. And adjusted as it should be.
what to do? I put a very thin bit of a cork under the feet that doesn´t reach the shelf.
But it doesn´t feel absolutely right that I have to do that. So I looked up Mike Sae´s homepage and Quote:
"the Cdx uses unadjustable metal feet. If only three touch the shelf, the shelf is probably warped. Off spec feet are so unlikely I probably shouldn´t have mentioned it"

Is it off spec?
any experiences?
can they be adjusted?
What do you think?

Gunnar
Posted on: 21 November 2002 by Gunnar Jansson
Thanks David!

Gunnar
Posted on: 21 November 2002 by Bruce Woodhouse
Mine was the same. Do the washer thing-it is not major surgery. I first used some thin squashy pads to even things out and the negative effect on the sound was very dramatic. I was a bit of a cynic re system supports until this point. Those apparently crappy shiny feet are just fine after all.

Bruce
Posted on: 21 November 2002 by bruce
A suggestion by Naim was simply to unscrew the feet and then screw them on back again. It may be that one of the feet has not threaded properly and so does not screw in fully.
Posted on: 21 November 2002 by Matthew T
Which would suggest that the thread has therefore been trashed in the process which doesn't inspire confidence.

Matthew
Posted on: 21 November 2002 by Gunnar Jansson
Hi again.

Thanks guys for your input.

Sent an e mail to Naim. Got a fast reply from Richard at Naim who told me that they are going to send couple of washers.
A customers service that Naim have all the reason to be proud of! Great.

What really impresses me about the ´x is how good it is even if it´s not yet run in. The sheer pleasure of cd replay is better than I ever thought it could be.

Gunnar
Posted on: 21 November 2002 by Erik
Try aluminum-foil between the foot and the case. Then level the spider with a Mana Spirit Level, the only Mana product worth having.

/Erik
Posted on: 22 November 2002 by Gunnar Jansson
Hi Erik.
Yes that´s a smart way if the gap isn´t that big.
Thanks!

What I don´t appreciate is the tiresome comments about "useless Mana". I´m very happy with my stand and it´s been a big improvement for me. I am in no position finacially to pay for a fraim.

I don´t dispute that the fraim is very good but please stay off that kind of comment´s

regards

Gunnar
Posted on: 23 November 2002 by Erik
Won´t keep on tireing You.

/erik
Posted on: 23 November 2002 by NB
Quote:-

What really impresses me about the ´x is how good it is even if it´s not yet run in. The sheer pleasure of cd replay is better than I ever thought it could be.
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Wait until you have had the CDX for a month or so. It just gets better and better. For me the CDX is the best CD player Naim manufacture.


Regards

NB smile
Posted on: 26 November 2002 by Gunnar Jansson
NB.
You are so right. It has improved even more.
I´m actually redescovering my cd collection.
Hard sounding cd´s wich I thought had a bad mix might have a not so good mix, but is listenable.
Can go on listening for hours. No listening fatigue whatsoever.

Got the thin washers from Naim yesterday and as soon as I have the time I´ll get working on the cdx feet.

regards Gunnar
Posted on: 26 November 2002 by NB
Glad to hear your enjoying your CDX even more. I have had mine for about 2 years now and I am still impessed.

Next step is to look at that 92!! The CDX sounds even better in front of an 82!! The 82 really does open up the sound!!

Regards

NB

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Posted on: 26 November 2002 by Gunnar Jansson
NB.
Exactly!
My next step is a 82. The 92 is a temporary solution until funds permit. With the new range in store there might be some good offers on 82´s even here in Sweden. I would really want to partner it with a Supercap.

Gunnar
Posted on: 26 November 2002 by NB
With the new range about there are plenty of second hand and ex-dem 82's arround.

The super is definately the way to go, but before you do don't forget the XPS.

The XPS has even more of an effect on the CDX than the 82/super. Again with the new range there is a steady flow of second hand XPS's reaching the market.

Regards

NB
Posted on: 26 November 2002 by Gunnar Jansson
Jonas(JPO) and NB.
I have already decided on a 82 and most likely with a super to go. Just have to save up for a while.

Jonas: Thanks for your very kind offer. But as I said, the purchase is already done mentally.
Anyway, it´s very kind of you.

NB: That´s one thing to consider. Would a xps be a "better" buy than a supercap? And would it be the next thing to get a xps and a 82 before snatching up a super. (My dealer thinks a super would come before the xps)
The offers here In Sweden is quite limited as opposed (to my belief) in Great Brittain. Simply fever owners of Naim gear. Well it´s no rush. Sounds damned good back home right now.

regards Gunnar
Posted on: 26 November 2002 by NB
Thats a good question!!

I would be inclined to say get the 82 first and then consider either Supercap or XPS for yur next up-grade.

I wouldn't like to say which would be the better buy as they are both worthwhile up-grades, I would suggest booking a dem at your dealers and listening to all the options.

Its then a matter of personal choice of which comes first.

Regards

NB
Posted on: 26 November 2002 by Gunnar Jansson
NB
Yes that´s the logical way to go. Or preferable a home dem with the two of them. The limiting factor then is the speakers wich is the last link in the chain wich I finally have to replace. Just that I want a so strong front end that the speakers that I finally get will last future upgrades.
Probaly the answer is getting both xps and super.

regards
Gunnar
Posted on: 26 November 2002 by Gunnar Jansson
Jonas.
We might be in sync with our next upgrades. Mail me if or when you are letting your 82 go.
Have to go now guys.

Gunnar
Posted on: 26 November 2002 by NB
Yes but your speakers are good enough to show the improvements on buying the super and xps.

The best bet is to get both the xps and the super but before changing the speakers that will be the time to look at changing the power amp.

Its all a matter of your budget at the end of the day,

regards

NB
Posted on: 26 November 2002 by redeye
We Know....
Posted on: 27 November 2002 by NB
Isn't it a matter of personal opinion?

I have heard the CDS II on a number of occasions and I still prefer the CDX. To me the CDX is a bit more laid back and I find it less fatiguing.

Just my humble opinion!!

Regards

NB
Posted on: 27 November 2002 by Gunnar Jansson
NB.
That´s good to know (about the speakers)
I´ve somehove got the feeling that the es 11´s will just improve with the upgrades.
And perhaps something like a 250 (after the external powersupplies)has to come in before changing speakers.
But es 11 is quite small and there must be limitaions in how much air they can push ( in sheer bass performance) and the tweeter is not the last word.

Steven.
I didn´t say that a cdx is better than a cds2.
Have not heard a cds2 so can´t comment.
I´m just so content with the performance of the ´x.
Simply comparing the pricetag though should be in favour of that machine.
(The good thing is that if one has a cdx and xps you might if you want to just trade in the cxd and keep the xps).
This is just too far away in that there are other components that come first in upgrading in my set up.

In stockholm about 0 degrees celcius, cloudy and chances of rain. Just like it should be in november.
Hoping for snow.

regards Gunnar
Posted on: 27 November 2002 by Gunnar Jansson
Paul.
I agree in what you are saying.

Today I´ve finally got the time to sort that problem out.
Unscrewing all the four feet and back in place did not do it. Tried on a demounted mana glass shelf.
Had to put about 5 (I think it was 5) very thin washers between the case and the feet made it stable.

That actually took me not more than about 15 minutes. The trouble of carrying the ´x back to dealer. Waiting for another shipment from Uk is a lot more of time wasted.

What Naim could do though is making shure that the few of the forthcoming players with this problem does not leave the factory. Should be realatively easy to check on the production line.
There has to be a discrepancy on the height of the plastic feet that causing the problem IMO.

regards
Gunnar
Posted on: 28 November 2002 by Gunnar Jansson
Omer.
may I guess?
CDS2?

regards
Gunnar
Posted on: 28 November 2002 by NB
Yes before changing the Epos's upgrade the power supply to at least a 250, even consider the new 300, I hear its a stunning power amp.

The Epos's will benefit with the larger amps but there is no substitute for bigger speakers if deep bass is what your after.

Regards

NB
Posted on: 29 November 2002 by Gunnar Jansson
Omer. sorry that your leaving the naim route.

NB.
I do believe that we all want deep bass if it´s done adequate.
That regardless of the music genre your listening too.
I find it´s also improves soundstage.

Regards Gunnar