Happy Birthday Ringo!

Although you do appear to have become a rather miserable chap.

He won't give me an autograph, I'll not send him B/day wishes then.

Glad he's on his own and doing well. Local channel spent the hour playing 60s peace and love songs. For some reason Dylan wasn't in that set, perhaps to sarcastic?

Peace & Love

Ringo's Touring band for the next month is not too shabby...

RINGO LAUNCHES SUMMER TOUR

Ringo Starr has launched his 11th All Starr Band tour featuring:-

Edgar Winter, Gary Wright, Richard Page, Wally Palmar, Rick Derringer and Gregg Bissonette.

Oh, I thought you meant the potato snack. Cheese and Onion were my favourite.

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Ringo Starr has launched his 11th All Starr Band tour featuring:-

Edgar Winter, Gary Wright, Richard Page, Wally Palmar, Rick Derringer and Gregg Bissonette.

If they drop Ringo, it will be a pretty good band.

Ringo is surely the best singing drummer ever.

Disgracefully overlooked for his K, I think. Arise Sir Ringo has a certain appeal!

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If they drop Ringo, it will be a pretty good band.

Harsh, I think, Howard.

The fab four were like the big brothers I never had. They were like family to me. Every significant event in my younger life is accompanied by a Beatles tune.

Happy birthday Ringo. Maybe you've turned into a narky old bugger but I'm heading that way too. So what?

Munch he was a competent drummer nothing more.

Thats why people never got how good he was.

They were a boy pop band. They wrote some great tunes but none of them musically challenging.

Garyi,

By musically challenging, do you mean difficult to play?

No.

Also I am don't want to argue with beatles fans, I always feel like I need to wash after.

Its all just my opinion of course, if you believe ringo is a drumming genius then so be it.

Hi garyi,

I don't think Ringo is a genius. I do think what he plays sounds pretty good in context, but that's not all that surprising perhaps, given how long they all played together.

I'm sorry that you feel the need to be offensive. I would really like to understand what you mean by musically challenging. If I understood your definition I might agree with you.

David

I don't believe I have ever intentionally tried to be offensive to anyone, and am sorry if you took it that way.

What I am saying is probably like you, in the context of the music the beatles played (which yes at the time was very good etc) he was a competent drummer.

Lets put it this way, the drummer out of coldplay is a competent drummer, and like the beatles they will be remembered many years from now as well, I suspect if the world still exists the interwebz might have a similar thread with someone suggesting that the drummer from coldplay was a genius. At least the beatles did some good tunes.

I must admit I am more interested in say Frank Zappa for musical pleasure and yes the drumming for the most part is complex, and to me more satisfying as a result.

I am not saying the beatles is the opposite to zappa or anything, just that in the context of what drumming is out there ('Yes' being another example) Ringo hardly jumps out as particularly interesting.

Fans of pink floyd of which I count myself one might say that Nick Mason is an awesome drummer, but if you can step away from the emotion its at most competent in that it neither adds nore detracts from the music, just sort of keeps the beat .
This all needs to be kept in the context of the fact I am not a drummer or a musician.

garyi,

That's all right. I think in the sense that you mean it, the Beatles probably weren't always musically challenging. Inventive, eclectic and brilliant though and I think if you spent more with them, you'd find they could be challenging enough at times. But then with artists as rich as the Beatles and Zappa you have to spend a lot of time with them to hear what's really there and you're not going to do that unless something about them grabs you to begin with.

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Originally posted by garyi:
They were a boy pop band. They wrote some great tunes but none of them musically challenging.

Total bollocks. They were the single biggest influence on popular music in the second half of the 20th century. Possibly ever. Beatlemania was a cultural phenomenon never seen before. The world was never the same after the Beatles appeared and I thank them for it.

Ringo is sitting in the bar at the Four Seasons in Chicago.
He is relaxing and chatting quietly with a few folks when all of a sudden a woman comes in and starts screaming at him.
"Ringo,Fu*k you! Screw you Ringo!!".
Ringo calmly stands up and announces to the crowd in the bar-
"Can't please em all.Sorry."
And sits down...

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Originally posted by garyi:
They were a boy pop band. They wrote some great tunes but none of them musically challenging.

You obviously weren't a teenager in 1966, gary.

No I was not alive in the 60s Dave.

it would appear though anything related to the Beatles showed thousands of fainting and screaming girls.

Boy Bands have that effect, I am sure they were not feinting and screaming at the competent drum work of Ringo Star, more the fact they were handsome, well marketed and wrote catchy tunes. Yes they were certainly at the cusp of it and for that should be congratulated.

I do find it odd the amount of fifty year old men that really dig them now though. I don't mean that offensively I really don't I simply don't get it. Were men feinting and screaming along with the girls in the 60s?

Garyi,
I tend to agree with you on your point in the fact that i didnt get it in the 60's either.....The rolling stones were my thing. but i can see that the Beatles were very influential back then.
Scotty

Beatles, Kinks, Incredible String Band, The Pink Floyd, The Pretty Things, Moody Blues, Grateful Dead and Jefferson Airplane were the groups I listened to most in my youth along with Shirley Collins and Anthony Newley

Ringo was a Star - the top singing drummer of them all.

Nick Mason was an OK drummer, but not great - I heard him say that in an interview.

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Were men feinting and screaming along with the girls in the 60s?

No, generally they were desperately trying hear the band, over the screaming.
Zep, Purple etc fixed that with a few hundred thousand watts and much better music.