No Din lead with DVD5

A DIN lead is not included as standard. You have not been done. You get the DVD5, remote and mains lead and thats your lot! I think you get special DIN leads if you buy the multi channel sound board, but not as standard, I didn't anyway.

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You have not been done.

Simon, I don't think Pat felt the lead was missing from his partiular box. I get the impression he feels that for £2,300 the DVD5 should be supplied as standard WITH the right leads for the most obvious use eg cd lead into Naim preamp plus suitable lead to 5.1 AV processor.

My guess is that Naim feel the DVD5 could be connected to such a wide variety of proessors or cds using RCA connectors, digital connectors, optical connectors etc etc that its better to get the dealer to provide suitable leads (at extra cost)

Looks like (some) dealers need to be a bit more proactive....

Cheers

Don

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My guess is that Naim feel the DVD5 could be connected to such a wide variety of proessors or cds using RCA connectors, digital connectors, optical connectors etc etc that its better to get the dealer to provide suitable leads (at extra cost)

You are right but it is a Naim product said to be part of a Naim system set on a Naim Fraim in a ... Naim addict house.
I do believe there is a missing ... link.

WHy does Naim provide the din lead with their cheapest CD player but not their most expensive DVD player?

We're being told that the DVD5 has great CD replay qualities!

That sucks.

i think you will find that most high end dvd players dont come with any leads except the power lead.

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Originally posted by niceguy235uk:
i think you will find that most high end dvd players dont come with any leads except the power lead.

Beside the point when a CD5i, which costs under half a DVD5, comes with one. Both players have RCA outs too.
J

the cd5i is not a dvd player.

it comes with only ONE purpose....to play CDs

Naim recommend the DIN input and provide the right cable.

the dvd5 will play CDs and DVDs

If its price was inreased by (say *) £100 AND it was supplied with ONE Naim lead to connect it to an AV2, would that seem sensible to everybody?

Cheers

Don

* substitute the retail price of the appropriate Naim lead

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Originally posted by Don Atkinson:
the cd5i is not a dvd player.

it comes with only ONE purpose....to play CDs

Naim recommend the DIN input and provide the right cable.

the dvd5 will play CDs and DVDs

If its price was inreased by (say *) £100 AND it was supplied with ONE Naim lead to connect it to an AV2, would that seem sensible to everybody?

Cheers

Don

* substitute the retail price of the appropriate Naim lead

Don

Not sure I get your initial point? I'm sure most folks would know what a CD5i and DVD5 played.

On your second, are you insinuating that if I bought a CD5i I am paying 100 quid for the interconnect? I personally wouldn't think that to be the case.

To answer your question, I'd pay less than the retail interconnect price on top of a DVD5 to have it included. That makes economic sense.

I suspect that the DVD5 doesn't come with an interconnect because folks would ask where their digital cable was as well.

Bestest
J

And Again:

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Originally posted by niceguy235uk:
i think you will find that most high end dvd players dont come with any leads except the power lead.

I used to have an arcam dvd player and that didnt have any interconnects either.

Im sure if you would like naim to put an interconnect in the box then they will.
You can then ditch that and go and buy a decent one instead.

Come on people, get a grip.........

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Originally posted by niceguy235uk:
You can then ditch that and go and buy a decent one instead.

Harsh....

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Come on people, get a grip.........

Harsher. Thought you were supposed to be a nice guy

Jay,

The cd5i includes the recommended connector, and this is included in the price. I've no idea how much that adds to the price, but i'm sure it does add to the price.

The dvd5 doesn't include a connector and the price doesn't include for it either.

Which connector(s) do you recommend be included and why. And why would you expect the price to increase by anything other than the retail price of the included connector(s)?

Cheers

Don

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Originally posted by Don Atkinson:
Which connector(s) do you recommend be included and why. And why would you expect the price to increase by anything other than the retail price of the included connector(s)?

Hi Don

Fair questions.

With the DVD5, I personally would like an interconnect and digital coax cable to be included.

Why would I expect to pay less than full retail? Well from a customer point of view, I've just shelled out quite a lot of money on a DVD player so I would expect to be treated a little better than someone who came in off the street and purchased either of those cables. The second reason is that I think it's fair to pass on the cost saving to the customer of including them in the box. No transport, stocking or tranactional fees you see.

I can understand why Naim don't do it. As I suspect it's the old, if we included that then we'd need to put that in as well, etc.

Alternatively what about being able to buy the digital coax, interconnect and maybe multiple multichannel cables together as a bundle?

Bestest
Jay

Jay

Didnt mean to sound harsh (although it does come across that way) but with regards to interconnects, the only dvd players that i have seen that come with them are the usual £100 players and even then, they are cheapo rubbish.

My point is:

Cheap dvd players come with cheap leads - DVD5 not a cheap player so therefore doesnt. im sure if Naim thought it was cheap they would bung in any old crap to get ya up and running.

I wasnt at all surprised that it didnt have leads coz my previous player didnt, but, i still had the lead from that so it was used on the dvd5.

phew, nuff said

g'night all

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Originally posted by niceguy235uk:
Jay

Didnt mean to sound harsh (although it does come across that way) but with regards to interconnects, the only dvd players that i have seen that come with them are the usual £100 players and even then, they are cheapo rubbish.

My point is:

Cheap dvd players come with cheap leads - DVD5 not a cheap player so therefore doesnt. im sure if Naim thought it was cheap they would bung in any old crap to get ya up and running.

I wasnt at all surprised that it didnt have leads coz my previous player didnt, but, i still had the lead from that so it was used on the dvd5.

phew, nuff said

g'night all

No problemo....

Like you, tis not big fish!

Jay

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No problemo....

Peace..

Maybe this is a case of Naim pampering us Naimees too much? We buy a cdplayer and they provide a lead which, in Naim’s opinion, is the best possible for their cdplayers. If Naim followed the other hifi manufacturers and did not provide a lead for any of their cdplayers, or provided one of those cheapo ones, will we then be happier and complain less?

But as a Naim customer, if I ever do buy a DVD5, I would also expect to be provided with everything needed for me to connect up, because I expect no less as they have raised the bar.

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I think it's fair to pass on the cost saving to the customer of including them in the box. No transport, stocking or tranactional fees you see.

Jay, this is a fair point about why the cost should be less. I also suspet the "loyalty" concept behind your first reason plays a part with some Naim equipment.

Put the two together (as you did) and I think a Naim dealer could supply your choice/need of lead(s) at a special discount rate at time of dvd5 purchace, to suit your system.

Cheers

Don

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Originally posted by Don Atkinson:
I think a Naim dealer could supply your choice/need of lead(s) at a special discount rate at time of dvd5 purchace, to suit your system.

I'm sure the good dealers are well ahead of us.

Best
Jay

I think its a bit unrealistic to expect nam to supply leads for a DVD player, for every one sold someone will have a different cable requirement, its not like a single output on a CD5 is it?

The DVD5 has a din connection for audio (analog) output, presumably so that it can connect to a Naim Pre amp (my situation).

The CD5i also has a Din output presumably so that it can also connect to a Naim Pre amp (again my situation).

Naim herald the DVD as being a mighty fine CD player as well as a DVD player (shutting down of the video circuitry when playig DVDs)

Therefore, I can see no valid reason for the DVD5 purchaser receives less of a service as a CD5i purchaser which is currently the situation.

IMHO, by Naim "selling" (and advertising) the DVD5 as a pucker CD player also, I believe that the cannot "run with the hare and the hounds at the same time" and provide one reason to include a Din cable with the CD5i and none with the (substantially more expensive) DVD5.

Regards P

Isn't the point that the dealer should have made sure the buyer has what is required to USE his new purchase?

Howard

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Originally posted by garyi:
I think its a bit unrealistic to expect nam to supply leads for a DVD player, for every one sold someone will have a different cable requirement, its not like a single output on a CD5 is it?

Naim nowadays trys to accommodate more than just solely Naim buyers, so unlike the CD5 days when DIN was the only option, the CD5i and CD5x now have the option of DIN or phono output. Now Naim include a DIN lead with every CD5i and CD5x, even though the users of these players may have a different cable requirement. I see no valid reason why they should not do the same with the DVD5 given what the cost of the lead must be to Naim. I do not listen to my DVD5 as my sole CD player, but I have still had to go out and buy a DIN lead for it so I have the flexibility to use it as a CD player at it's best if I want to. Come on Naim be a bit more generous, chuck in a DIN lead!

I bought the DVD5 with the mulitichannel board for DVD-A. The 2 din to RCA cables (Chord) cost me almost CA$400 (2 meters). I also had to purchase 3 BNC adaptors for the component video cables. I have no problem with Naim not supplying any cables. I usually prefer to use ones of my own choosing anyway.

The only problem was in hooking up the multichannel cables to my surround processor as there were no labels on any of the RCA connectors! I had to sort out the 5 different leads as to what plugged in where! Luckly I guessed right the first time!