Elton John

Noel probably talks more sense than Liam. Not difficult though....

Elton John has been about a long time, and as I gradually lost touch with Pop towards the end of the 70s, I suppose I missed the later Mr John. I always enjoyed his 70s material though, in an ignorant sort of way, I suppose.

"Candle In The Wind" struck me as pretty dire, but then I was not into the Dianamania either...

ATB from Fredrik

I am not in touch. I thought came out for the late Princess! ATB from Fredrik

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Originally posted by BigH47:

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Noel Gallagher.

Such a talent I would really take note of his comments as something worth ignoring. Talentless loud mouth.

Take it your a fan then, Howard?

Some Noel's more articulate and charitable observations are bellow

One of the most consistent subjects of NG's abuse is Phil Collins. Such insults include People ******* hate ***** like Phil Collins, and if they don't, they ******* should and Why did he sell so many records in the '80s? I mean, ******* hell as well as Phil Collins sells a lot of records but he makes **** albums. NG also claimed PC said he'd leave Britain for Switzerland if the Labour Party won the 1997 general election, and commented in the Daily Mirror, before the 2005 general election, Vote Labour. If you don't and the Tories get in, Phil Collins is threatening to come back from Switzerland and live here — and none of us want that. He also referred to Collins as the anti-christ. PC struck back in 2005, stating that he had moved to Switzerland not for political reasons, but to be with his third wife Orianne (is that the one he divorced by fax?), and was not a Conservative voter. He successfully convinced Paul Merton the Gallagher brothers deserved to be put into Room 101, explaining: They're rude and not as talented as they think they are. I won't mince words here, but they've had a go at me personally. Discussing this, Noel told MTV's Gonzo in 2007, Phil Collins knows he can't say anything about me because I'm the ******* ******** and that's the thing that does his head in, and the fact that he's bald.

On the other hand NG talks quite highly about Elton. Sorry for the thread hi-jack.

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Originally posted by Fredrik_Fiske:
"Candle In The Wind" struck me as pretty dire

Probably because it was - once voted the worst song ever recorded by a knowledgeable Channel 4 audience

Black Lace were annoyed because they claimed that their own hit Agadoo deserved that accolade.

CITW is the best selling single in British pop history, I think.

I saw Elton John live at the Guildford Civic Hall in late 1970, with Dee Murray and Nigel Olsson on guitar and drums. This was after he had hit it big in the USA and was regarded with deep suspicion by the "heads" here. He arrived on stage 45 minutes late and had severe laryngitis, to the extent he could hardly speak. He started to play, we all went bananas and as the adrenalin kicked in his voice returned. The evening was an absolute riot. His first few albums were pretty good but nothing compared to the way he was for that concert. It was only later that he went "glam" and totally ott with his stage persona. He was a wonderful tunesmith throughout it all though.

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Originally posted by Fredrik_Fiske:

I always enjoyed [Elton John's] 70s material though, in an ignorant sort of way, I suppose.

Fredrik, why "ignorant"?

All best,
Fred

'Coz I don't know nuffink about Popular Music!

Seriously though, I hardly know anything about film either, but I do enjoy the cinema or DVDs as well...

There are people who know almost all there is to know in comparison...

Kindest regards from Fredrik

poppycock!

music is music and your understanding of music is greater than most people's I know!

terms like 'popular' and 'classical' and 'nu-wave', etc., are labels created by academics whose only purpose in life is to secure themselves a future by smothering culture in impentetrable industry speak and pigeonholeing everything so that only they can interpret it.

(the 3 spelling mistakes and 2 grammatical errors are intentional!)

Most people seem to know 'Our Reg' for his pomp rock stuff, but he made some great early albums. The John/Taupin partnership produced some lovely stuff.

This thread has made me dig out the excellent 'Tumbleweed Connection'(1970) which I'm currently enjoying. I rather like 'Captain Fantastic'(1975) too.

I also admire the honesty of the guy. He 's freely admitted publicly, behaving like a prat on occasions.

John.

A tendency to revere early Elton John material is understandable, but two 'recent' albums that recapture his early creativity are 'Song From The West Coast', and 'The Captain & The Kid'.

At his best Taupin/John can be inspired, but at their worst sacharine tosh.

In terms of his contempories,( Rod Stewart, Bowie, etc) no one is as driven, touring and still releasing an album a year. Having seen him live, very few artists have the material or ability to play for 2.5 hours solo and captivate an audience.

Sadly due to his lifestyle, the music has often been sidelined.

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Originally posted by MRASNOBLE:


Sadly due to his lifestyle, the music has often been sidelined.

Do you mean because he travels and likes to socialize ect. or do you mean (alternate) lifestyle ?



Sanch

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Originally posted by munch:
SJB His best music was up to Y B Road,It was down hill from there IMO,The Elton John album was the one that started it for him it has your song on it .My favs are that album Tumbleweed connection/Madman across the water and the Goodbye Yellow Brick Road,album.regards munch

With you on this one munch.

Awful clothes and glasses do you mean?

and funny hair



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Still think Empty Sky was the best thing Reg ever did.

Hi Sancho
In answer to your query.
I think he is often thought of as wig, tantrums,rehab and gay, by many people, and the musical talent is overlooked. This characture is what remains in people's minds. Partly his fault, partly the media's.
I also think the poor material in the 80's, 'Lion King' and the Diana song, means new material is not given much credence. I bought the last album based on the reviews 'Captain & The Kid'. It was very good. Strong lyrics and melodies with hooks. Just what make his earlier records so sucessful.

There he was again all over Life on Mars last night(well I watched it last night). Some great lines in Life on Mars last night, pity there is only 2 shows left to run.


Anyway I got Empty Sky, Elton John and Tumbleweed Connection. I've given the first 2 a listen but am not really engaging with them. There are some excellent tracks, some mediocre but overall I'm not being drawn in. I perhaps should have gone for one of the best of's.

Mind you coming to this from a fortnight of Heart and Soul the Joy Division Box set is probably not the best state of mind for appreciating Reg.



SJB