Naim and Keilidhs

Hi!

I auditioned Keilidhs when I bought my first Naim system (3.5/92/90) and decided to go for Credos. They are much much better than Keilidhs!!!

- Jun

I know that you are posting this to get me to say...if you like Keilidhs you should look out for Kabers.

They look similar but are a much more refined design, with a better crossover and each drive unit has its own sealed cabinet - the real terms escapes me but if you press in one of the Keileidhs' speakers, another one moves out. This does not happen with Kabers - so drivers are more isoloated from each other. betterbracing, etc etc

The Ku Stone polymer stands are essential for best sound. The early marks did not have them but they are available as a bolt on. Look for them on Loot and eBay; look to pay £5-600 or so for a late set with Ku Stones.

Well worth looking out for IMHO

Regards

Mike

On the Yellow Brick Road and Happy

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Originally posted by Shayman:

I quite fancied Shahinian Starters but apparently they don't make them anymore.

Jonathan

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drop me a pm if you are still interested in these...

Regards

Mike

On the Yellow Brick Road and Happy

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if you press in one of the Keileidhs' speakers, another one moves out

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Is that an Isobarikky thing?

Paul Rowlands

no, just means that they share the same cabinet and are not isolated from each other. Push one in, and the air in the cabinet will be displaced, pushing the other driver out.

regards,

michael

Jonathan,

I've got Keilidhs at the moment on my present system and used to drive them with a 72/140/flatcap. I love them and will be hard pressed to change them for something else (probably something pricer from B&W eventually)

I'd initially heard the 72/140 with btoh Credos and Keilidhs and personally I prefer the Keilidhs, I wouldn't say one was better than the other, just quite different. I quite preferred the Linn speakers on the end of Naim amps.

I would agree that if you buy a second hand pair, make sure you get a pair with the Ku-stone bases on them. They make a massive difference to the sound and getting the bases on their own is a real pain (I waiting 4 months for a pair to show up on eBay and then had to pay a reasonable sum for them too).

Kabers may be better, but I'd be careful as I've heard many varying reports on them. Some people seem to like them and others can't stand them. I've never had a good opportunity myself to listen to them, so can't comment on them myself.

Roy.

Jonathan

I bought keilidhs on first getting into naim kit some 12 years or so ago. Had them for about 6 years before getting SBL's - my current speakers.

Keilidhs worked well for me - even better with the KU stone stands. I only changed them when a pair of second hand SBL's came along AND my dealer gave me £400 partX for the Keilidhs.

They are well worth a listen and IMHO work well with Naim.

Cheers
Peter

I used Keilidhs or 10 years, first with a 140, then with a 250. They certainly deserve the 250. The thing to look for is the new tweeter introduced about 1998 - this made a vast improvement and ultimately I preferred them to Credos.

mike lacey

wasn't my intention at all but....you have a private message

Jonathan

So the Keilidhs have a passive radiator? The idea behind radiators is that you still have a sealed cabinet, but at the same time you can move more air to provide more bass. I haven't heard the Keilidhs but other speakers using the passive radiator have not impressed me so much.

I can vouch for the Kabers too (with later tweeters and KuStone), although I had a 140 when I got them, and it wasn't quite right. A move to a 250 opened them up in a big way, and I'm sure there's a lot more where that came from.

Peculiarly though, this problem isn't apparent with a Nait 1 driving them, although this could well be an illusion due to cunning aspects of the Nait's design (discussed at length elsewhere).

Stephen

Jonathan,

I have Keilidh's on my Naim system. The Keilidhs started on the end of a 62/110 system and are now on a CDS/52/250 system. The Keilidhs have just sounded great after each upgrade. They are smooth and dynamic and very enjoyable to listen to. They like a bit of air around them and definately need the Kustone plinths. I have also set the spikes on screws to further smooth out the midband.

A good pair can be had for around £350.00 with plinths (or even less) and I cannot suggest a better sound for that sort of money. I have tried the earlier ones with the wire mesh tweeters and the later ones with the three bars and I cannot tell much difference (I have the mesh type and have cut out the mesh).

I say go for the Keilidhs. If you don't like them you can sell them on for what you paid.

Regards

Chris

Hi,

I have owned Keilidhs for ten years and they are excellent value for money speakers. They are quite different from Kabers. Keilidhs are on the warm site of neutral and Kabers are more precise sounding, but also thin in bass, especially when you compare them with Keilidhs. If you are a real Naim-lover and do not miss the bass performance, I think you should look at Kabers, but I prefer Keilidhs. Never heard them with Naim though.

Linnogator

Having used both, I would go for kabers over keilidhs every time...allthough i did borrow a friends Intro 1s and preferred them to both, they seemed to give the bass depth of Keilidhs (without the boom) and the stark, dry balance of Kabers. This makes me think Credos would be even better (allthough I have not had the oppertunity to hear them, one would expect them to be better than their cheaper relatives)-And this comes from a linn user!!!

I have lived with Keilidhs for seven or so years and they have served well. For the price that they are available now I guess you will struggle to find many better.

I find them working better, particularly in the bass dept, standing in free space (mine are a couple of feet out into the living room).

They definitely need the Ku-stone stands.

I really appreciated their capabilities when I moved over to Naim amplification.

Mike

Sorry to mention earlier but I found that biwiring does improve the clarity and detail of the Keilidhs. I know this would be an issue with Naim but I tried single and biwire and prefer biwire.

Regards

Chris