The NAPSC is bloody marvellous!

Posted by: david needham on 15 August 2003

I've just spent a fascinating afternoon listening to upgrades to my sistem.

Currently I have:

CD5/flatcap2/202/200 into Rogers Ls6a2's

First thing that was done was to add the NAPSC to the 202. F**k me! Why haven't I done this before? It was as though someone had pulled a blanket away. Better definition, piles more PRAT, vocals further forwards. If anything my reservations about the reference range is that the presentation is a little laid back compared to my old 62/140. Not so with the 202/NAPSC/200. Tracy Chapman's Mountains o' Things never sounded so vibrant to me.

Next up, replace the FC2 with a Hicap. Definately an improvement, but not as big a leap as the NAPSC - and four times the cost! Certainly details were more clearly defined, and the space around instruments more obvious. And yes, even more or the PRAT thing.

The next thing was to replace the CD5 with a CDX2. Oh dear! Another jaw drop moment! Here was me thinking my aging Rogers speakers might be the weak link in my sistem and not be up to the job, and then they fill the demo room with such music ! (I took them along with me). If ever I doubted "source first" I don't any more. The difference between it and the CD5/cap? Just more of everything really - More detail, more PRAT, better soundstage, better presence, just....better!

Next I had a listen to the CDX2 with the XPS2. Things are starting to get expensive now - over £2k for this bit of kit. Whilst it certainly did tighten things up and make for a more exiting presentation, I wasn't convinced that it offered VFM.

Finally the XPS2 was removed and the FC2 brought back out. This time however it was used on the 202 instead of the CD5. I must admit I'd not been impressed with the improvements the FC2 brought to the 202 in my home system. Worth the cost of the extra SNAIC, but not much to write home about. However without having to power both the CD5 and the 202, it was a different story. Much more musical and involving. Certainly as big a difference as adding the FC2 to the CD5 when I first bought the sistem.

Conclusions:

The NAPSC transforms the 202 to such a degree that anyone with a 202/200 would be crazy not to check it out.

The CDX2 out performs the CD5, even with a hicap (surprise!), and is IMHO easily worth the extra few hundred quid over that combo.

Although the FC2 can power two pieces of kit, it doesn't seem able to do two jobs without a noticable reduction in performance.

All that's left is to wait for my CDx2/NAPSC to arrive. I can barely wait!

David
Posted on: 15 August 2003 by Naimed-In-NY
David - Congrats on the new kit. Your conclusions regarding the CDX2 v. CD5 (w/power supplies) are informative, as I'm saving up for a Naim cdp. I added a PSC2 to my 202 and also was very pleased, although I think I found the improvements to be more subtle than you did. One question: it sounds like you tried a Hi-Cap2 with the CD5 and a FC2 with the 202, but did you try adding a Hi-Cap2 to the 202? When I demo'ed Naim equipment last, I found adding a Hi-Cap2 to the 202 to be a huge improvement - much bigger than adding the PSC2. Just curious.
Anyway, congrats on your purchases. Enjoy the music.

MBM
Posted on: 15 August 2003 by david needham
MBM

No I didn't go that next logical step. By that time I'd already fallen in love with the CDX2 and knew I couldn't afford a Hicap2 aswell. My main concern was whether to trade in the FC2 along with the CD5 as I hadn't been impessed with it on the 202 whilst powering the CD5 at the same time. I was surprised how much better it was on the 202 alone and therefore decided to keep it untill funds allow another upgrade.

David
Posted on: 17 August 2003 by Wiltshireman
I agree totally David, the NAPSC has to be the most value for money item available from Naim. My advise to anyone out there who can use one but still hasn't is to do so, now!
Posted on: 18 August 2003 by Sean Woods
I agree with the VFM the NAPSC brings to your system. I have a 102/Hi-Cap/250 combi and I purchased the new version of the NAPSC and I could not believe the difference this little box of tricks made.

A bit of advice, this box gives of a lot of interference keep it well away from the reset of your kit hence the long 24v cable which is supplied and if possible (a bit over the top) plug it into another mains ring.

Sean
Posted on: 18 August 2003 by ajalden
Hi David,

I've got the the same system as you but SBL's and a CD5 and I'm trying my best to hold back from a CDX2 dem until I have all the funds.

Try and get a 2nd Hi-Cap for the 202 which would cost you about 50% of the price of a new one and will make a much bigger diffrence then a NAPSC.


Rgds, Andy
Posted on: 18 August 2003 by david needham
Thanks Andy

I'm sure you're right. Unfortunately the one compromise I have to make with my hi-fi is tha The Boss insists it looks "nice". This means matching boxes in her books, so no second hand olive stuff. I've only just been able to convince her over the CDX2, so it will be a good few months before I stick my neck out again to try for a Hicap2!!

The other thing is whether that would give me more than the XPS2 added - certainly a lot cheaper!

Ta

David
Posted on: 21 August 2003 by John Bailey
I think I did do a post on this some time ago but without any shadow of a doubt adding the NAPSC2 to my NAC202 was the biggest and best value upgrade I have ever had from Naim.
Posted on: 14 September 2003 by Emil F
David

I think that going to XPS2 before getting the pre/amp combo to another level will be not worthwhile.

In your case it means that you need at least Hi-cap2 and Napsc for the 202 to hear the difference XPS2 makes.

FC2 is not a good option for the classic series. Even a bare CDX2 will benefit from a HC.

Emil
Posted on: 14 September 2003 by Tuan
quote:
Originally posted by Wiltshireman:
I agree totally David, the NAPSC has to be the most value for money item available from Naim. My advise to anyone out there who can use one but still hasn't is to do so, now!


The NAPSC would have been incorporated into the new generation of highcap If I am part of the design team.
Posted on: 14 September 2003 by hi fi fo fum
well I guess that is way you are not !
Big Grin Wink Razz...Max, I also know what you would do to the NAP 300 Wink
Just keep the power flowing sir....
Posted on: 14 September 2003 by david needham
Ultra Violet

I haven't heard it on a 102, but on a 202 it was a no-brainer.

VFM? Well NAPSC1's are going for under £100 on e-bay, so work it out for yourself!!

Cheers

David