Stop me wasting more time -metadata using U/Serve rips

Posted by: heihei on 29 April 2012

I'm looking to get some of the albums I've ripped via my Unitiserve and NAS into iTunes so I can load them onto iPods / iPhones etc.

I'm using Max to convert from wav -> m4a but am struggling to get track names and numbers converted across.

Is this because it's pretty much impossible for any 3rd-party software to read the Naim metadata, or am I missing something???

 

Have spent a fair amount of time on this already, and if I spend much more, I may as well just re-rip into iTunes via my macbook.

I thought I may have a solution using the iTunes server built into my Netgear NAS but this doesn't see metadata either.

Posted on: 29 April 2012 by garyi

Long and short, no, the general concensus appears to be the files naim machines create cannot be read by third parties.

 

I think someone had success with an app for PC, but cannot remember it name sorry, do a search.

 

But long and short is you will have to rip again for itunes

Posted on: 29 April 2012 by aysil

Hello garyi, it was me. MediaMonkey (for PC) was the only program I could find which can read Naim library's file structure. All album, track and artist names come across correctly together with the cover-art. No genre etc though. Moreover, MM does convert the files to mp3 copies and sync them onto iPhone directly - without even using iTunes. So, no need to rip again. Sorry, I don't know if there is a similar program for mac.

Posted on: 29 April 2012 by Zinger
Try kid3 or MusicBrainz if your file names and directories are structured in a proper way. I don't like WAV because it doesn't support tags, so the streamers/programs end up using their own way of keeping track of things ... Convert them to lossless or AIFF once and for all. I'm in the middle of converting 1TB of WAV here as well. It really is a pain ...
Posted on: 29 April 2012 by Simon-in-Suffolk

Yes, I seem to remener when I looked at Naim rips, that Naim decided not  to use WAV tags, but instead use it's independent database to store meta data, so as Aysil says, to do anything with Naim wavs, you need an app such as MediaMonkey to read the database such that it can write the tags back into the WAV. However native WAV tags don't have album art, you neen ID3 tags for that, but as ID3 is not officially part of the WAV standard, not all WAV readers can extract album art, but there is no excuse for not being able to read native/standard WAV tags for the other meta data.

I use native WAV tags and ID3 tags in my WAV file masters on my NAS, and then convert on the fly to other formats such as Mp3 as required. But I didn't rip them using Naim.

Simon