Where can HD tracks be downloaded from in the Uk?

Posted by: Consciousmess on 15 June 2012

Hi all,

I have tried to download HD tracks but for copyright reasons have not been able to do so as I am in the UK.

Does anyone have any websites they can suggest?

Many thanks

Jon
Posted on: 15 June 2012 by osprey
Linn Records
Posted on: 15 June 2012 by rjstaines

Jon, you're asking people to provide information on a public forum that will enable you to do something that contravenes copyright law..  so that would be 'aiding and abetting' at a guess.  That being the case, whoever responds and provides the information you're looking for could theoretically be prosecuted, I suppose.

 

..but actually the answer to your question was provided in a thread a couple of months ago... I suggest you go forum-archive-hunting and I'll remain anonymous!

Posted on: 15 June 2012 by Gale 401
Originally Posted by rjstaines:

Jon, you're asking people to provide information on a public forum that will enable you to do something that contravenes copyright law..  so that would be 'aiding and abetting' at a guess.  That being the case, whoever responds and provides the information you're looking for could theoretically be prosecuted, I suppose.

 

Err,

Not really at the prices HD tracks charge for there music downloads.

The uk problem only came about because of away to pay for the downloads.

Copyright law does not come into it.

Stu.

Posted on: 15 June 2012 by osprey
Like Stu I'd see this as an honest request for an alternative source of legal hi res downloads. Naim Label being one obvious one of course.
Posted on: 15 June 2012 by Phil Harris
Originally Posted by Gale 401:
Originally Posted by rjstaines:

Jon, you're asking people to provide information on a public forum that will enable you to do something that contravenes copyright law..  so that would be 'aiding and abetting' at a guess.  That being the case, whoever responds and provides the information you're looking for could theoretically be prosecuted, I suppose.

 

Err,

Not really at the prices HD tracks charge for there music downloads.

The uk problem only came about because of away to pay for the downloads.

Copyright law does not come into it.

Stu.

 

Hi Stu,

 

The "UK Problem" as you refer to it came about because people from the UK and Europe were getting round the HD Tracks rules on where they could sell to and had to clamp down on that. It has nothing to do with HD Tracks pricing.

 

There are licensing issues to be taken into account - quite often the original licence holders of the product (in this case the music files) will only licence a reseller to sell to a certain territory. In this case I believe that HD tracks are not allowed under terms of their agreements with the original licence holders to sell outside the USA.

 

This simply follows the normal music distribution practice of splitting the world up into territories and handling each one as the majors feel appropriate.

 

Cheers

 

Phil

Posted on: 15 June 2012 by Gale 401

Phil,

OK i stand corrected sort of!

They are still making a packet from the UK though and what you pay for covers the rights so to speak.

So the record companies and artists are still getting there's.

The only one i have found any good though was Band on the run last year.

Most are just up-samples and a rip off imo.

Unlike the Naim Hi-Res downloads.

Stu.

Posted on: 15 June 2012 by J.N.

Are mainstream releases on CD legally available to download in CD quality (or better) if one lives in the UK?

 

John.

Posted on: 15 June 2012 by James L

Not sure if this helps you guys in the UK but I'm in NZ and able to purchase off HD Tracks by using PayPal as the payment method. 

 

Just a heads up; do your research before buying from HD Tracks. Not all releases are legitimate/genuine Hi-rez.

Posted on: 16 June 2012 by AndyPat

Aleg has already highlighted qobuz.com on another thread. Streaming at 16/44.1, downloads of loads of albums at same resolution and a quite extensive hi-res catalogue across a range of genres. Yes it's in french, but they have incorporated a google translation widget so you can get a reasonable translation of any page within around 5 seconds. It's not for bargain hunters but then again neither is HDtracks, and so far I haven't come across any questionable provenances.

 

Andy

Posted on: 16 June 2012 by KRM

Phil is right, but the "UK problem" would only make commercial sense if the record companies were licensing their products in the UK, but they're not. There is no UK distributor who suffers when Brits download from HD Tracks.

 

 I've had my NDX for just over a year and the supply of legal HR music is now worse than it was last spring. What is going on?! If they sell it here I will buy it with money (and I did until I was blocked). I want their product, but they don't want my money, it seems.

 

What we have now is musical prohibition. HD Tracks' downloads are legitimate in the Ameriica, but are bootlegs in the UK. It reminds me of the early days of DVD when films were released ealier in the States, so we all got our players chiped. The two crucial differences this time are that there is no Region 2 and there is a world wide web.

 

I hate "freetards" and their distorted logic and I don't use torrent sites, but the music industry is surely its own worst enemy

 

Keith

Posted on: 16 June 2012 by MangoMonkey

and I doubt there is an extradition treaty in place for the crime of suggesting HDTracks. :-)

Posted on: 16 June 2012 by BigH47
Originally Posted by Gale 401:


Unlike the Naim Hi-Res downloads.

Stu.

 You think £17 for a download is great VFM? I don't.

Posted on: 17 June 2012 by AndyPat

And Linn have negotiated to release the Universal catalogue of master recordings but hey, let's not bother listening, just keep banging on about lack of access to a site that has some questionable products. If you're after Westlife albums I really wouldn't bother with 24 bit, it won't make them sing any better.

 

Qobuz, Linn, Naim.   Between them they've got plenty of high res music. More than enough to let you find out if you can discern a difference over quality 16/44.1 recordings.

 

If your equipment is that good you aren't short of a bob or two so stop looking for cheap prices. You want to be cutting edge? It costs.

 

Andy

Posted on: 17 June 2012 by KRM

Hi Andy,

 

I thought I made it clear that I am happy to pay but no one wants my money.

 

I just checked the Linn website and a search of rock/pop Studio Masters yields three albums by mainstream artists (Gaucho, Damn the Torpedeos and the George Harrison demo album). That may satisfy your definition of "plenty", but not mine.

 

However, if Linn go on to be the UK HD Tracks, I will be very happy, not least because I would trust them not to sell up-sampled 16 bit files.

 

Keith

Posted on: 17 June 2012 by Lontano

And I thought it was vinyl that was cutting edge........

Posted on: 17 June 2012 by Aleg

Maybe it is time to approch the record label with your requests for  HighRes music and not the distributors.

 

I did a quick survey on Qobuz (they do a 'lot' with HighRes) how many HighRes they have for each music style:

  • Classique (822)
  • Jazz (214)
  • Electro (96)
  • Pop Rock (68)
  • Soul Funk Rap (57)
  • Musiques du monde (world music) (16)
  • Musique de films (film sound tracks) (13)
  • Enfants Ambiance (childrens) (6)
  • Blues Country Folk (3)
  • Divers (3)
  • Diction Littérature (audiobook) (1)

 

I am fortunate since I listen to Classical music, but it appears there is not much being released on high-res in other music styles. Jazz  being an exception but also there, only a few labels that release the majority of high-res recordings.

Maybe also because it isn't recorded in high-res in the first place. I hear not all who are recording in the pop-scene are convinced about high-res (some might 'go up' to 48kHz) and it does cost more storage space and requires more expensive equipment.

 

In the pop scene the biggest volume of listeners listen to absolute s***t quality music and don't seem to care. And the big record labels only care about making as much money as they can, so what do they care about a  minute minority who likes quality recordings?

 

So maybe time to bombard the record labels with requests for more high-res releases and see if there is someone listening?

 

-

aleg

 

Posted on: 17 June 2012 by Guido Fawkes
Originally Posted by Consciousmess:
Hi all,

I have tried to download HD tracks but for copyright reasons have not been able to do so as I am in the UK.

Does anyone have any websites they can suggest?

Many thanks

Jon

 

Yes some sites use your IP address to work out the country you are in; that is one of the reasons you should not use proxy settings unless you know what you are doing because then the site will get confused and think you are in a different country from the one your are in and as a result may not be able to block you. 

 

This is not good as the consumer is no longer protected from making such downloads. We need to be very careful using proxy settings in a web browser as otherwise people can download things from places they shouldn't without anybody being any the wiser.  

 

This can cause quite a problem especially as so many free-to-use proxy servers are popping up on the Internet and forming The Onion Ring that anonymises who you be. 

 

Fortunately, for corporate customers, there are now solutions that stop this kind of thing. 

 

 

 

Posted on: 17 June 2012 by Guido Fawkes
Originally Posted by BigH47:

 You think £17 for a download is great VFM? I don't.

For the most part I think nobody cares about high resolution music as no HMHB albums have been released in that format. 


Am I going to buy everything again in HR anyway .... how many times do these record tycoons expect me to re-buy the same stuff?  


BTW - ELP and Tarkus are soon available in Steve Wilson format - I've pre-ordered mine. 

[Hoping the SQ will be even better than the vinyl, cassettes, CD (standard and SHM) that I have]. 

Posted on: 17 June 2012 by Gale 401
Originally Posted by BigH47:
Originally Posted by Gale 401:


Unlike the Naim Hi-Res downloads.

Stu.

 You think £17 for a download is great VFM? I don't.

Howard,

No i don't.

Stu.

Posted on: 17 June 2012 by AndyPat
Originally Posted by Aleg:

 

So maybe time to bombard the record labels with requests for more high-res releases and see if there is someone listening?

 

-

aleg

 

+1 pour Aleg. Merci monsieur, c'est la verité. Vive le Qobuz. They do Naim label albums, now that's got to be a good reason to give them a try.

 

Originally Posted by Lontano:

And I thought it was vinyl that was cutting edge........

Now that's a very good point, or is that stylus tip

 

Keith, have patience with Linn, see news item here

http://www.gramophone.co.uk/cl...dio-master-downloads

 

In the meantime they have 400 of their own and assorted others to dabble with. Surely something must tempt? Not even Bob Marley - Legend, Diana Krall, Tom Petty.... its definitely started. But please do check out Qobuz  ( not on commission-honest, I'm not a natural francophile but if someone is good, they're good)

 

Andy

Posted on: 17 June 2012 by winkyincanada

Does anybody have any experience with Barry Diament's (Soundkeeper Records) recordings? Only a few reordings available, but from the info on the website, recorded in a simple, live and authentic manner. Hi-res available, too.

 

But none of this maters if the music is no good. Anybody want to comment?

Posted on: 17 June 2012 by Hot Rats

 

Where to find good high resolution downloads?

Want to spend ages looking for high resolution tracks?

Why haven't you been able to find anything so far?

.

As rjstaines says you need to look around

Various search sites

And maybe sooner or later

X will mark the spot

How will you search for good high resolution downloads

Other than by using established search engines

Maybe you will find what you're looking for and maybe you won't

Even if you don't it will have been fun

.

Whatever happens

Smile whenever you can

 

Hope this gives you a clue!!!

 

Moderated Post: I have removed the link to a well known pirate site.  Please do not post links to sites that break the law - or indeed, sites that encourage you to break the law.  Thank you.

Posted on: 17 June 2012 by BigH47
Originally Posted by Guido Fawkes:
Originally Posted by BigH47:

 You think £17 for a download is great VFM? I don't.

For the most part I think nobody cares about high resolution music as no HMHB albums have been released in that format. 


Am I going to buy everything again in HR anyway .... how many times do these record tycoons expect me to re-buy the same stuff?  


BTW - ELP and Tarkus are soon available in Steve Wilson format - I've pre-ordered mine. 

[Hoping the SQ will be even better than the vinyl, cassettes, CD (standard and SHM) that I have]. 

Good news SW getting round to some decent music at last!

Posted on: 17 June 2012 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by Hot Rats:

 

Where to find good high resolution downloads?

Want to spend ages looking for high resolution tracks?

Why haven't you been able to find anything so far?

.

As rjstaines says you need to look around

Various search sites

And maybe sooner or later

X will mark the spot

How will you search for good high resolution downloads

Other than by using established search engines

Maybe you will find what you're looking for and maybe you won't

Even if you don't it will have been fun

.

Whatever happens

Smile whenever you can

 

Hope this gives you a clue!!!

An "interesting" site. Call me old-fashioned, but I don't like to steal music.

Posted on: 19 June 2012 by Consciousmess
Try this: https://www.burningshed.com/st...etree/collection/94/ Jon