Airplay & Naim - Long Way To Go

Posted by: Elija123 on 09 July 2012

Hey guys!

 

Yesterday I asked Naim about how far plans to integrate Airplay in Naim Streaming Devices have come. Steven Hopkins told me that "there are still a lot of contractual hurdles stipulated by apple that need fulfilling before we can proceed".

 

Hopefully this will be done towards the end of the year when I will earn more than twice the amount of money that I currently earn

Posted on: 24 July 2012 by Geoff P
Originally Posted by realhifi:
Originally Posted by Elija123:

 

2. It doesn't speak directly about airplay integration. I read about kinsky and song cast and other 3rd party applications. That sounds like Windows shit. No thank you. Either native Airplay support or nothing.

......Also has Linn's Songcast which works with both Apple or Windows and plays whatver you want to play from that computer at the resolution it is stored (or streamed) making surfing for music on your laptop an enjoyable experience.

 

 

Just to be clear Songcast is actually not 'windows shit' ......and as RH says It works very easily and consistently on both MAC and PC. It will stream up to CD resolution (44.1/16) and is really good with Spotify for example.

Posted on: 25 July 2012 by alainbil
Originally Posted by Bluebeard:

Sorry for the thread-crap. John Zorn is one of the more interesting avant-garde musician/composers around. Try Spillane or The Big Gundown for some of his 'homage'  recordings or Naked Eye for some out there stuff or Masada for his 'structured improvisations'.

 

regards,

 

Giles

I concur with you, John Zorn is one of the most interesting jazz musician around: he is also, may be, the most eclectic musician ever being the leader and/or composer of groups as various as “acoustic Masada” that sounds like the classic Ornette Coleman Quartet, “electric Masada” that is something between Tony Lifetime Lifetime and the Shadows, “Naked City” and “Pain Killer” which plays some very noisy rock, a string quartet, ..

 

I am not so keen on the “homage” recordings however.

Posted on: 16 August 2012 by Tog

The Kiko is likely to do well - Linn have a mature streaming product selection now - clearly differentiated by price ( were Linn the reason Naim started down the streaming path) and with few of the customer hostile foibles remaining to annoy those moving into digital. 

 

Songcast works really well as does Kinsky - with Internet updates on less.

 

Active speakers - so adding passives wouldn't work for obvious reasons - nothing to stop you adding different actives if you really felt the need.

 

True it won't sound as good as an NDX powered Ovator Spewing setup - but I haven't heard a Linn system that didn't sound pretty good and the whole thing costs less than a Uniti2

 

Interesting.

 

Tog

Posted on: 16 August 2012 by maze

I haven't heard a Kiko yet, but looking at the Kiko has Linn gone further into B&O territory?

I imagine it would make a great office/second system. The active speakers are interesting especially in a all in one product.

Posted on: 16 August 2012 by Bart

Why don't Meridian get mentioned in the same threads as Naim and Linn?  They seem to have a few interesting streaming options too, and my buddy (mate) in Cambridge is pretty well married to Meridian kit.

 

He heard my Naim system when he visited a few months ago and was jealous however

Posted on: 16 August 2012 by rjstaines

That'll be why, then.  

Posted on: 16 August 2012 by Tog

It is worth considering where the digital/streaming route is taking us - 

 

In a few years willbe be looking at a complete digital path without analogue or analogue amplification at all?

 

Tog

Posted on: 16 August 2012 by Bart
Originally Posted by Tog:

It is worth considering where the digital/streaming route is taking us - 

 

In a few years willbe be looking at a complete digital path without analogue or analogue amplification at all?

 

Tog

Where does the d to a happen? 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_speakers

 

Posted on: 16 August 2012 by Guido Fawkes

Meridian already do it ... heard the system a couple of years and very impressive: in fact only thing I didn't like was the sound. 

Posted on: 16 August 2012 by Tog
Digital pre - power DACs - class D - active speakers - digital until the cones vibrate and the air moves? Tog
Posted on: 16 August 2012 by Bart
Originally Posted by Tog:
Digital pre - power DACs - class D - active speakers - digital until the cones vibrate and the air moves? Tog

I think that's probably the future too.  I had a hard time buying into the active speaker concept (upgrage/change path requires one to change the speakers AND the amplification) when I looked at a Meridian system last year, but maybe I'm just a luddite

Posted on: 16 August 2012 by Simon-in-Suffolk

Active speakers make a lot of sense, and get around inefficient crossovers. However class D really comes into its own for efficiency and cheap manufacture. There are many challenges to making a high quality class D amp, but things are improving. It will be interesting to see how well it competes in moderate power 2 channel setup. I think for home cinema surround sound it will however become de facto.

The term 'digital amp' seems to confuse. It is an analogue amplifier but uses the speaker as its transfer function whilst using a comparator driver rather than relying on the linearity of the output transistors. A digital amp has nothing to do with SPDIF etc........

Simon

 

Posted on: 16 August 2012 by pcstockton

"class D" does not mean "digital".  no one is here know what they are talking about.

Posted on: 17 August 2012 by Tog

@Patrick - no one has said it does - would you accept that they involve signicantly more digital processing than say a class A/B amplifier?

 

@Simon - not a simple route but both Hypex and B&O make very successful amplification modules used by many other audiophile companies.

 

 

Tog

Posted on: 17 August 2012 by pcstockton
Originally Posted by Tog:

@Patrick - no one has said it does - would you accept that they involve signicantly more digital processing than say a class A/B amplifier?

 

@Simon - not a simple route but both Hypex and B&O make very successful amplification modules used by many other audiophile companies.

 

 

Tog

Just because an amplifier uses digital circuitry (and not all Class D amps do) somewhere in the chain does not make it a "digital" amp.  I am sure you can find controllers in A, A/B, B, amps.  It is all still voltage and current and very much "analog".

 

The fact that the shittiest sounding amplifiers in cars, jukeboxes, HT Receivers, are typically Class D should sway people from being attracted to a "theoretically" 100% efficient amp.

 

But..... i dont know anything about the topic so Im not sure why my drunk ass chimed in last night.  Sorry.

 

-Patrick (HUNGOVER!)

Posted on: 17 August 2012 by spartacus
Originally Posted by pcstockton:
 

But..... i dont know anything about the topic so Im not sure why my drunk ass chimed in last night.  Sorry.

 

-Patrick (HUNGOVER!)

Ha Ha Ha.. Great post Patrick.. What a chuckle.

Posted on: 18 August 2012 by Tog
Ah Patrick - it all makes sense now... I've been so foolish ... Sturgeon's law applies to all things Tog