Naim DeskTop Manager issue for ssd

Why do you rebuild the data base?

You just need to refresh the shares.

Sometimes when I have to do a big repair I find that refreshing doesn't work and rebuilding does. I'd like to save the playlists somehow rather than starting over with them.

Oh the joys of networking.  I am truly sorry for you, antmast.

I have been there, done it, read the book and lost my page.  No way will I ever return to a network based music system.  

I use iTunes and output via USB into my Essensio DAC.  Simples. Never falls over. 

Networking is a ridiculously over complicated way to play music.

Richard

Have to do a big repair? What does that mean?

I'm with Richard here. iTunes direct to my SuperNait has none of these issues. And I can manage our iPods and iPads with no fuss. I feel for you.

Where's your loyality Naims? 

'Big repair' is when I want to make a multiple cd set into a one super cd for better playback ease. I do a refresh by shutting the SSD down and bringing it up again. It doesn't look like the Network Desktop Client tool backs up my playlists properly when I say to.

If the only reason for what you're doing is to put multi-CD albums into a single super-CD, I'd suggest ripping the CDs in question to a music share rather than to your main music store.  In the share you can drag files around as you want, and rename them and organise album art with something like media monkey.  Then just re-scan the music share and you've got what you want without touching your music store, rebuilding data or losing playlists.  There may well be a better way to do it but that's my suggestion.

... networking? The OP has been editing tags on FLAC files and doing a database repair (that shouldn't be necessary) - not sure where networking comes into this?

Phil

I'm not really sure either - there should be no reason (under normal circumstances) to ever have to do a "Rebuild Database" from desktop client (it's an option on a tools page) unless advised to by me, some other representative of Naim Audio or your dealer. It is however NOT a function that can render your unit inoperable so there is no issue with selecting it so it doesn't need to be hidden.

I'm sure your sympathy for the OPs situation is much appreciated.

Phil

The OP says he's been editing FLAC files which I ASSUME are on a music share or on the Downloads share if he has a 2Tb unit, they shouldn't be in the servers stores as we do not rip to FLAC so I think that we need to be doing some deeper investigation ...

HOPEFULLY he hasn't been trying to manually insert FLAC files into a music store folder structure...

Phil

Nope, these are all hi-res flac downloads going to the share. The on line stores really download bad tags on their flac files sometimes, in particular, one site I have mentioned before, . Maybe my rescan of the share is not very effective. I am doing a reboot of the SSD. Should I go to the internet tool and disable and enable the share instead?

...and...

OK - first things first. There is NO reason to do a database rebuild from Desktop Client in this instance. A database rebuild makes the server clear it's music databases completely and rescan the ripped albums that are stored on itself - in your case as you have an SSD unit then you have no music stored locally and the "Rebuild Database" is redundant for your purposes.

Now, for everyone else that is also reading the "Rebuild Database" option throws up the following warning when selected:

So it does say that it will erase your user defined playlists - and prompts you to back up your playlists. Do you actually have a backup location defined that is NOT on the Unitiserve itself? If not then it can only back up to itself and rebuilding the database will clear down all these files? When you restore your playlists you should get a message similar to this:

Do you get that?

All you should need to do to rescan your FLACs after editing them is to select the share in the "Scannable Network Shares" screen of DTC and simply hit "Rescan"...

Cheers

Phil 

Thanks,

I have a NAS and there is no local storage. I do get the prompt for backing up the playlists but it doesn't back them up successfully, only 1, and doesn't restore them successfully, maybe because they are not local. The Desktop Client Tool sees them before the rebuild however. I probably need to refresh the way you are suggesting. Currently I am doing something else entirely different. 

I don't really understand. Why not just play them in order? But I take Phil's point. I'm not being helpful so will butt out.

Hiya Winky...

I'd actually say that was being helpful as it is related to his posting

Phil 

My HDX-SSD doesn't restore the Play Lists, even though it says it has.

Playlists were backed up a while ago to a backup share on my ReadyNAS, you can see 10 playlists there, with varying sizes, and you can READ the playlists with Winamp, but it doesn't actually play them, you just see the contents of the playlist.

At some point after the last backup, the playlists were emptied somehow (?? dunno how - wasn't me guv.)

When I now use DTC / Tools... Restore Playlists, it says it has '10 playlists were successfully restored...', but they appear empty on the HDX.   So I don't know where it's restoring them from, but it isn't the same place as it previously backed them up to!

Anyone (Phil?) got any thoughts?

Roger

I have concluded that playlists are too unstable to be reliable.  Fortunately I don't have too many of them - eight or ten that reproduce old compilation tapes, or vinyl albums where I have all the same tracks on various CDs..

I have an HDX SSD and a Buffalo TeraStation NAS.  Some of my playlists are all tracks from my Music Store and others are a combination of tracks from my Music Store and tracks from a separate Music Share that I used for ripped vinyl albums and downloaded HD files.

From time to time, and for reasons I have never fully fathomed, my HDX loses connection with the NAS and I have to re-boot it (the HDX), or my Music Share demotes itself to a Music Share and I have to promote it back again.  The latter happened a few days ago when one of the disks on my NAS failed and I had to replace it.

Invariably, I get everything connected once again, with no problem except that I lose all my playlists.  Istill see all the playlist titles in Desk Top Client but they no longer contain any tracks.

Unless someone has a better idea I think the only thing to do is to turn playlists into "albums" in my Music Share - in Windows, copying all the relevant tracks from wherever they may be into a folder in the Music Share.  A bit of a pain, and the copied tracks will be duplicates, but at least they won't be exposed to the vagaries of playlists.