Yes! Is this the most pretencious, overrated band of all time?

In my defence, I said I had the BLACK STUFF version, not the shiny metalic frizbie.

It would make a good box if you played cricket!

Not big enough to protect me. Hyuk hyuk.

I hear the new term for them are 'abdominal guards'. I'll not tell you the phrase we use in Yorkshire.

Kevin - who is your avatar?

Christina Hendricks - but hands off, she's mine!

I watched some episodes of 'Firefly' (Joss Wheedeon) with an actor I was working with, and when she came on, he was just blown away by her acting (her looks help too).

It is great to see she has had such success in 'Mad Men'.

Woy, what do they call a box here (Yorkshire)? I missed that, although haven't been to Headingley much the last year or two.

Oh, and I still like Yes.

The title goes to U2 and Asia (a so called Super Group). Yes, well they were strange to me.

Far too shy to say. Headingley is a bit too snooty to hear it probably. Try the lower echelons, the Bradford League or Yorkshire Council, if they still exist - It's a fair few years since I turned my arm .

Ah, Asia, yes, good selection Vlada.

Originally Posted by Kevin-W:

Nah. A band that releases and album called Warrior on the Edge of Time whose cover folds out into a shield, thus:

 

can never be considered overrated.

Steve,

 

 You have selected the gem in my opinion. I still have this on the black stuff and it is the greatest example of album art\design of all time. It makes me wonder why I (eventually and very late) moved over to CD.

 

Some tracks are excellent, like 'The Golden Void' - fabulous, as good as any Floyd in my humble opinion.

 

BUT.............. 'The Wizzard Blew His Horn' (for example), the most pretentious crap I have ever heard, together with the likes of 'Opa-Loka', a drum solo which goes nowhere and ends up up its own b.tt.m........ grief, it's also pretentious. Certainly was enough for Lemmy to say farewell (though he was actually sacked !!!).  

 

WW.

Never thought Lemmy contributed much to Hawkwind (he was fine in Sam Gopal though). Never been a Motorhead fan ... I don't hate them or anything and have a couple of albums by them, but he didn't seem anything more than the bass player in Hawkwind on a few records. The version of Silver Machine with Robert Calvert on vocals would have been a more appropriate release. 

I really like WATOT, but for me Hawkwind were at their brilliant best when Robert Calvert has at the helm especially on Quarks, Strangeness & Charm. 

On WATOT, The Wizzard Blew His Horn was Michael Moorcock referencing his books about The Eternal Champion. In one guise as Erekosë, the Champion destroys the human race before they can destroy another more peaceful race, the Eldren - Moorcock is quoting from these tales - the full plot summary is HERE. 

Moorcock's own album with his band The Deep Fix (who were Hawkwind in disguise)  called New World's Fair is an interesting collector's item. 

Guido,

Dare I say (with complete tongue in cheek) that this sounds a bit anorak-ish....

If someone realy loves music none of the band or artist is overrated. Why focus on what is whorst, it's a waste of time.

Nothing anorak-ish about Guido's  post imo.

Sounds like some one with a brilliant knowledge of music to me.

Keep it up Guy,I love reading your posts.

Stu.

I used to love Micheal Moorcock's  books. 

I love the band and the artist,he calls himself prince again now .

Stu

Nothing anorak-ish about Guido's  post imo.

Sounds like some one with a brilliant knowledge of music to me.

Keep it up Guy,I love reading your posts.

Stu.

+1.

Stu/Guy,

Slightly off thread but I've never heard Porcupine Tree and note you are both keen on them. If I was to try one LP of theirs which would you choose? I buy very little new music and maybe I should broaden my horizons.

Steve

Did you read my 'tongue in cheek' reference ? And my smileys ?

Hi Steve

Porcupine Tree have changed a lot over the years, so it depends on what you wish to try.

I know Stu, like me really likes 'Signify' (1997), when they still had a lot of influence from Pink Floyd.
'Waiting Phase I' from 'Signify'.



Some really like the hard rock/metal sound of 'Fear of a Blank Planet' (2006).

'In Absentia' (2001) is somewhere between the two.

'Trains' from the above.

There is also the more instrumental, perhaps trancy 'Voyage 34'. (EP - 1993 -ish)

Perhaps better than all those is Steven Wilson's second solo album 'Grace for Drowning', (2011) very influenced by early 70's music.

'Deform to form a Star'

I hope that gives you a taste before making a decision. I am sure Stu and Guy will have some recommendations too.

Jamie

Steve,

Guy is not a fan of PT he does like what Steven Wilson does to Jethro Tull and others albums though.

I would say this one because you are an old hippy.

I would also pick up Steven Wilson's last solo album while you are at it.

Grace for Drowning.

So many good ones to choose from though.

burningshed still has both instock on vinyl.

This is one of my most played and loved PT albums on double CD and vinyl.

I think you will like it also.

Stu

Steve,

This triple 180g live album boxset is coming out next month.

You can pre-order from burningshed £22.99.

Also worth a punt imo.

Stu.

Thanks Stu. I'll give them a try.

Steve,

Jamie put up some good links.

Worth a listen.

If you ever get up to Tonys for a listen to his active DBLs.

He has a few PT albums and dvds to watch on his big screen.

Stu.

Hi Steve,

Recently a fan of Steven Wilson, Uwe Häberle, updated his labour of love called "Voyage PT - This Trip Is Really Necessary". It is a free 500 page PDF download and gives a wonderful insite into the musical diversity of Steven Wilson.

Enjoy - http://www.voyage-pt.de/swdisco.html 

Denis

I don't own an anorak (any idea where I can get one), but I bought a cagoule to keep the rain off while watching London 2012, but didn't really need as the organisers stopped the rain at Eton Dorney. I do have another raincoat with a hood. I really like the idea of being an anorak, as it sounds far more interesting than the job I usually do. 

I always thought the Police were pretty pretentious - shame really as Andy Summers was first class in Dantallion's Chariot, but, of course, he wasn't being stung in that group. Were they trying to be the Wailers, 'cos if so it was a failure. 

Hawkwind though are one my favourite bands and I was appalled when the BBC attempted to do a rocumentary around them and focused on Lemmy and left out David Brock (I mean what was the point ... like putting on a show about the Kinks and forgetting Ray Davies).      

Apologies Steve, but as Stu explained I know nothing about Porcupine Tree. I do like the Ozric Tentacles though and have around 20 of their records and tapes. 

All the best, Guy