People Can Find Faults With Any Band/Album/Music?

How can I listen to it? But I don't want to find faults in it.

deco wood

I'm afraid I have Stu. It's twee. And it's shit.

I knew that from the day it came out when we all listened to it down the local record shop during our school lunchbreak (remember listening booths? You could all bunk off school, smoke a few fags and listen to free music! Those were the days!).

We weren't opposed to prog - we all loved the Floyd, Rush and Crimson - but this was, we all thought, a step too far, even for the hardcore Genesis fan among us (I never was, although there are a few early songs I like, and I actually own a copy of TLLDOB).

Hi Stu

I think looking out for faults is an unusual approach to listening to music, perhaps more cerebral than most.

As for anything by Genesis, I would rather stick pins in my eyes, but to each his/her own.

Ray

Frank F you need a better system.......

Stu,

It's a coincidence that I played this very same album 2 days ago for the first time in many years (although mine is the 1st press). I enjoyed this album when it was first released but now not as much, probably because I feel saturated with Phil Collins voice in the '80s.

I'm now revisiting my Supertramp albums from the same period and these sound really good and haven't dated at all.

There will be a million different opinions as there would be with any piece of music.

Steve

Beauty/sound is in the eye/ears of the beholder.

Beauty/sound is in the eye/ears of the beholder.

Exactly.

> People Can Find Faults With Any Band/Album/Music?

Not with this band as they have never ever recorded so much as a duff track and they have Goth on their side. 

Absolutely magnificent from the first note I heard up to an including their flirtation with Bisodol. A complete documentary of life as I know it and A Country Life just about the saddest song ever recorded as it tells of a fate that could one day be the one we all suffer .... except I haven't got any records with Sting on them. 

Fixed it for you.

Great collection of Half man half biscuit records Guy.

What is the one in the bottom row, 3rd from the right which looks like a homage to Patti Smiths Horses?

Ray

It is the inside cover of CSI:Ambleside advertises some back catalogue gems and forthcoming releases: none of which I've been able to get hold of, but they are, going from left to right at the top:

Yves St Martin & Stephen Lewis - Equus On The Busses 

Pam Ayres - 'Orses

Border Collie - Sheepdog's Off Duty

Roughs with Sticks - **** off Mr Chips

Thelonius Drunk - Jazz Greats

.........

Shagger MacColl - First Time Ever I Saw Your Mate

Mau Se Tung & The Mike Sammes Singers - You're More Than A Number In My Little Red Book

I was dragged to a post Gabriel Genesis concert once about the time of Trick of the Tail - after performing their set they said "any requests?", I said "Yes, play one the drummer knows".  

I am not commenting on this album or group, but Guy, I will be appropriating that comment with necessary situational modifications for future use...that is some funny sh*t!  Just wanted to let you know you will be "plagiarized" at some point in the future.

Thanks Guy.

HMHB did some cracking songs: sometimes thought provoking, often humorous and always enjoyable.

Alas they disappeared from my collection when I ditched the vinyl. Time to right that wrong.

Ray

Stu,

I've heard of OCD but you seem to be suffering from GCD.

KR

Tony

 It was all in the thread name.

Reply's as expected and now the norm on here.

If something is not liked its Shit.

Well done Kevin.

Just because one does not like a album band or singer, It does not make there music shit.

Stu.

In a similar vein Stu, I am watching Green Day on BBC3 as I type and wonder who could possibly like it (other than teenage boys). But lots of people do so just goes to prove how subjective music is.

Anyway, the Vaccines are on next: more my (but not everyone's) cup of tea.

Atb

Ray

I caught a bit of the Vaccines and thought not my cup of horlicks so put a Strangler's record on instead ,,, as you say we all have our opinions (no right, nor wrong and no rock with roll), but when it comes to certain bald drummer, I'm of the same mind as Mr Noel Gallagher ... the 80s what was that all about? 

I'm a prog-rocker for sure, just not a Genesis fan. I really like Peter Gabriel, but I think his creativity was severely restricted by being in a group. It all started so well and Trespass is a marvellous album, and even after that there were moments to enoy "THe Musical Box", "March of the Giant Hogweed", "Supper's Ready". "Get 'em out by Friday" and "I Know What I Like", when the group were effectively his backing band. However, when the other members stepped up then it really wasn't up there with VDG, ELP, ELO, Crimson, Tull, Purple and Colosseum ... and then PG broke free and released a series of superb albums and in all that time sought to help people and never sent anybody a nasty fax. 

Of course it is all opinion ... and it would be hard to find a record that everybody agrees is unquestionable brilliant (Anthems In Eden, Achtung Bono, Sandy, Eldorado, Abbey Road, White Noise: An Electric Storm, Tago Mago, Nadir's Big Chance, Flood, Italians From Outer Space). 

I've even met somebody who didn't like Shirley Collins, but then who the hell does Jeff Dreadnought think he is? Still now we know what he looks like he'd better not come near Stroud. 

For me, Genesis without Peter Gabriel is like Adam without Eve, Gilbert without O'Sullivian or Little without Large. 

It's a great album Stu - ignore the humbug.  Guido's eccentric anti Phil Collins kick was funny for a while.  Anyway, when I last spoke to PC he hadn't heard of him. :-)

The old Beatles gags never go out of fashion.

Glad you liked it  ... 

All the best, Guy 

I like the idea of this one even more.  The old reported response to a comment that "Ringo isn't exactly the best drummer in the world" where Lennon was supposed to have said "Ringo's not even the best drummer in the Beatles".  Can this be true?  As you probably know, PC was a huge admirer of Mr. Starkey. :-)

Rock and Roll is Full of Bad Wools

If you don't like it then find something you do is my approach to music.

Except that we have radio at work! I would call it noise pollution ...

I like it when the Test Commentary is on. I suppose that I have another ten months to wait till the pop/pap is tuned out again!

Maroon Five, or Ed Sheeron, anyone?

Well I hope not! I'd compare it to Chinese Water Torture, crotchet torture perhaps. but the crochets are not rhythmic and the pitches are diabolically uncertain.

ATB from George

Stu,

What are you on about fella? Are we now not allowed to say that Genesis are crap or something?

I've said it before and I'll say it again: part of the joy of music is feeling passionate about it - you love and you hate. I think Pink Floyd and Can are up there with the gods, but I think Genesis and RHCPs are shit. I think Bobbie Gentry, Kate Bush and Scott Walker are fabulous artists, but that Sting is a lute-plucking bellend, Costello ludicrously overrated and Springsteen a sweaty bore.  Some will agree with me, others will find my opinions ridiculous. Maybe we'll have a right old forum dingdong about it. Great, I say, it all adds to the gaiety of the (musical) nation as far as I'm concerned.

If we are allowed to praise music we like then surely we can express strongly our loathing for the music we dislike? After all, we live in a free country and saying that And Then There Were Three is a shit record is not, as far as I know,a criminal offence.

Now of course you are right in a sense when you say "just because one does not like a album band or singer, It does not make there music shit" - because there is no way to prove objectively or scientifically that a band's music is shit - or indeed whether it's good. All we have is our own ears, heads and heats to go on. The head, heart and ears of Kevin tell him that And Then There Were Three is total doo-doo, just as yours tell you that it's a great album. Splendid - enjoy it, I'll go off and listen to something I like. Nobody's stopping you enjoying that particular album, and nobody has the right to. And nobody has the right to stop me, or anyone else, saying we don't like it, or that we think it's shite.

And if you expected the results you got on this thread, why did you bother to start it in the first place?