Which version of Sgt. Pepper's? (for reasonable money)

Posted by: mutterback on 10 September 2012

I listened to my "original" CD copy over the weekend for the first time in years (CDP 7 464422). Reminded my why its been years, it sounds horrible.

 

I would appreciate your recommendations for the best, reasonably priced & reasonably available, version on CD or LP? I'm also willing to consider the USB green apple or the stereo or mono box set versions.

Posted on: 10 September 2012 by KRM

I'm not sure that I agree that the original CD sounds horrible. It has a glassy tone but this is because they had to "bounce down" multiple tracks as they were using a four track machine.

 

The stereo remaster is better, but the bass has been boosted to make it sound more modern :-(

 

The mono version is interesting if you are used to the stereo as there are a number of quite noticable differences. You also avoid the hard-panned stereo and hear the mix the Beatles spent more time on.

 

Keith

Posted on: 10 September 2012 by DrMark

"You also avoid the hard-panned stereo and hear the mix the Beatles spent more time on."

 

For all his considerable genius, George Martin didn't figure out the stereo thing while he was with the Beatles; it's the singularly worst thing about their recordings.  I was hoping the stereo remasters were going to somehow obviate that, but the few I tried still have it.

Posted on: 10 September 2012 by mutterback

So is the mono box set version better?

 

Any comments on mono box vs. the high-ish res USB?

Posted on: 10 September 2012 by fred simon

Until the so-called White Album, the mono masters are definitive ... the stereo mixes were done after the Beatles had left the studio, to serve the burgeoning American stereo market. Compared to the mono mixes they were thrown together fairly quickly.

 

The White Album was mixed both in mono and stereo by The Beatles themselves (with engineers, of course) ... their first album to be taken seriously in stereo. Before that, if you want to hear what the artists intended, go with mono.

Posted on: 10 September 2012 by Massimo Bertola

Fred,

perfect answer, thanks.

M.

Posted on: 11 September 2012 by Gale 401
Originally Posted by mutterback:

So is the mono box set version better?

 

Any comments on mono box vs. the high-ish res USB?

They are both very good as is the stereo box set.

The mono gets the most play here.

Let it be naked  gets more play than any of the others.

Stu.

Posted on: 11 September 2012 by Kevin-W

I have to agree with Stu and others here - the 2009 mono CD is the best version I've ever heard. The mono box set sounds fabulous and is a beautiful artefact, well worth investing in.

Posted on: 11 September 2012 by KRM

Mono is best, but the 24 bit USB is very good. My only complaint is that they boosted the bass on the stereo mixes which did not do Abbey Road any favours as it already had plenty of bass. You don't get Abbey Road or Let it be in the mono box set as they were never released in that format.

Posted on: 11 September 2012 by Guido Fawkes
Originally Posted by Gale 401:
Originally Posted by mutterback:

So is the mono box set version better?

 

Any comments on mono box vs. the high-ish res USB?

They are both very good as is the stereo box set.

The mono gets the most play here.

Let it be naked  gets more play than any of the others.

Stu.

Let it be naked  is absolutely wonderful .. I think they took some sad production and made it better. Mr Spector like many producers at the time seemed to add no value just unnecessary strings (there is a great Pretty Things album almost ruined by unnecessary strings).

 

However I agree totally with Stu ... mono box is great, but love the stereo box too 

 

Get either or both ... you can't go wrong. 

 

The Yellow Submarine Songtrack is amazing too, as is 1 ... these are inexpensive on vinyl and sound quite wonderful. 

 

It was 45 years ago today, Sgt Pepper taught the band to play (well not exactly, but it still sounds extraordinary). 

 

Abbey Road gets the most plays of any Beatles album I have. 

Posted on: 11 September 2012 by DrMark

"Abbey Road gets the most plays of any Beatles album I have."

 

That's because it's the best one Guy!  The boys knew how to end everything with their best effort.

Posted on: 11 September 2012 by mutterback
Originally Posted by Gale 401:
Originally Posted by mutterback:

So is the mono box set version better?

 

Any comments on mono box vs. the high-ish res USB?

They are both very good as is the stereo box set.

The mono gets the most play here.

Let it be naked  gets more play than any of the others.

Stu.

Thanks - seems like its a clear plurality for the mono box set! (Who said PR doesn't produced definite results?)

 

Also, I'd forgotten about Let It Be Naked, just picked up a used copy for $1.99. Thank you.

Posted on: 12 September 2012 by Salmon Dave

Let it Be Naked sounds excellent and works well for what it does (though I still have a fond nostalgia for the 1970 release).

 

However, two gripes: whatever its authenticity, it's very irritating not to get the 'full' version of Get Back; and the release very much ties in with Macca's irritating rewriting of history (which also saw him wishing to re-credit the songs as 'McCartney/Lennon' rather than 'Lennon/McCartney'...)

 

Must check out the mono box as recommended.

 

BTW I have my original 1967 mono Sgt Pepper complete with uncut moustaches etc, still sounding great after decades of hammering on ancient record players!

Posted on: 12 September 2012 by Gale 401
Originally Posted by mutterback:
Originally Posted by Gale 401:
Originally Posted by mutterback:

So is the mono box set version better?

 

Any comments on mono box vs. the high-ish res USB?

They are both very good as is the stereo box set.

The mono gets the most play here.

Let it be naked  gets more play than any of the others.

Stu.

Thanks - seems like its a clear plurality for the mono box set! (Who said PR doesn't produced definite results?)

 

Also, I'd forgotten about Let It Be Naked, just picked up a used copy for $1.99. Thank you.

Now you need a vinyl copy.

Still lots about new.

Stu.

Posted on: 12 September 2012 by Gale 401

Beware when buying the Beatles Mono box set.

There are lots of copies on the internet.

Even some sold new from amazon were not the real thing.

A google will give one lots of info on this.

Stu.

Posted on: 12 September 2012 by vlada

Well, I have both the USB Stereo Box and the Mono Box. It depends really on the album what version is better. As we all know 24 Bit can not compensate for a god or bad master. 16 Bit well mastered album can sound better a 24 Bit version not well mastered. Now as it goes for Sgt. Pepper, the USB Version is good but the Mono version (and the original is mastered as Mono) is something special. For the particular question: To me the Mono remaster from 2009 is the one you should go for.

Posted on: 12 September 2012 by FangfossFlyer

And I wonder what happened to vinyl remasters?

 

I have given up hope after waiting for the last couple of years.

 

Richard