Beatles Remastered Vinyl

Debs

Thanks for that. But how is it compared to the digital reissue from the 90s? IIRC, you have the copy, too right?

Sounds like it's worth the wait for the mono release next year for this one.

According to Fremer, Sgt. Pepper is the best one if you don't have the German copy. ( Oddly he rates this above UK original )

Kuma,

i only have Help! & Rubber Soul which is two too many of those horrid 89 remasters, don’t have the white album on anything else, in fact this is my first listen to the actual album, a lot of great songs on it, most of the lesser known ones I’ve heard before on the ‘From Liverpool’ box-set from 1978 which had 8 LP’s of Beatles tracks in a non-album compilation but at least it was anolog and the pressings were quite good.

Why should the Mono set be better?

Hi kuma. I think I am inclined to agree with Fremer with regard to Sgt Pepper. I have an early pressing  of Sgt P not a 1st and find the new one has more depth, it sounds less harsh! With more space in the bass. Sorry that's the best I can do to describe the sound but hope you get the idea. Overall  the box Sgt P sounds better IMO.

regards Graham.

Debs,

Cuz, according to a hardcore Beatles record collector, up till the White Albums are all recorded mono and stereo issues are done later manipulated. (fake stereo )

BTW, I've got four copies of those awful UK digital reissues: White Album, Sgt. Pepper, Abbey Road and Let it be which all of them sound get  Rating.  :x

Graham,

Thanks for sharing the info.

Hi Kuma,

It's not true that the original stereo mixes were fake it's just that they were done after the album was mastered for mono, up to Yellow Sumarine, Let It Be and Abbey Road. I refer you to Wikipedia which confirms what I was originally told.

The Mono Box Set was released to reflect the fact that the Beatles' catalogue (aside from Abbey Road, Let It Be and Yellow Submarine) was originally released in mono, with the stereo versions as an addition. Many feel that these mono mixes reflect the true intention of the band. For example, in the case ofSgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, all the mono mixes were done together with the Beatles themselves, throughout the recording of the album, whereas the stereo mixes were done in only six days by Abbey Road personnel George Martin, Geoff Emerick and Richard Lush after the album had been finished, with none of the Beatles attending.^[5] George Harrison commented:

ATB

Steve

haha. that's great Steve. re: 'naked'. 

Ok. so Sgt. Peper should sound better in mono, too then. I was misinformed. 

Thanks.

If a Beatles record is in mono, does that always mean it can be played using a mono cart?

Or can a mono recording sometimes be on a stereo pressing?

Debs

Debs,

You can always play a mono vinyl on a stereo or mono cartridge.

However, some mono cartrdiges are designed specifically to trace a mono groove ( cartridge motor only responds to a mono (horizontal ) grooves in which when used on a stereo record, it'll kill the cartridge suspension.

Could a mono and stereo recording on one record?

I haven't seen that. I have seen, however, a different polarity inversion on the same album. 

+1

Hi Graham,

Was the older pressing mono or stereo? There were many fewer stereo copies of this album until later '70s repressings'. The new stereo pressing could give the appearance of more depth. 

I've decided to keep my box set unopened and sell it at a later date but I've bought Rubber Soul and Revolver as my originals are not in the best of condition. I'm currently listening to Revolver. The crispness and clarity is not as good as my 1st presses but both Rubber Soul and Revolver are better than the Beatles For Sale I reviewed earlier and are quite enjoyable. I would give them 7/10 compared to the originals but only 5/10 to BFS. Based on what you say about Sgt Pepper I might try this one next as I only have the mono 1st press.

ATB

Steve

Hi Steve.

My copy of 'Pepper' is in Stereo. On the back cover top right hand is printed : p1967  Long play 331/3 r.p.m PCS 7027 Stereo, the run out on both sides are stamped YEX 638-1. I think this was my sisters copy given to her as a present but not sure when. It still has the SGT Pepper Cut Outs intact.  Hope you are well.

Graham.

You are a lucky man Graham, it sounds like you have a 1st issue there. Does the cover have a wide spine? These are the very first presses and command good prices in decent condition.

ATB

Steve

Hi Steve. Yes it has a wide spine. Thank you much for making my day.  With regard to the box set. It. looks like we might have been lucky with the EU pressings compared to the USA, according to the Hoffman thread. Anyway bring on the mono box set. Take care & have a good week.

Graham.

Not convinced this is correct. I owned a very early stereo copy of the white album, serial number in 13k's. The spine of the sleeve was printed with both the stereo and the mono reference. This seems to indicate mono and stereo where planned for release at the same time.

I'd be interested to know if later serial numbered albums where printed with both references.

I've quite few old beatles albums and I've spent a bit of time trying to identify if they are in anyway rare, usually on ebay. The misinformation is amazing, a lot of it a sort of Chinese whispers, somebody claims this that or the other is rare, it's then repeated and repeated.

I was searching for information on Rubber Soul and came across this amazing auction, please only click on the link if you want a headache. Ended at £565 but I can't fathom why.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BEAT...;hash=item3cccba909c

Fatcat,

The quote you assigned to me above is from Wikipaedia as stated in my post. Even the earlier Beatles albums were released in both mono and stereo, I have original 1st stereo presses of With The Beatles, Hard Days Night, Help, Beatles For Sale & Revolver. The point is that the albums were originally recorded and mastered for mono and the stereo mastered separately after the fact until Yellow Submarine, Abbey Road and Let It Be which were purposely recorded for stereo release. The stereo versions were still released at the same time as the mono versions, hence your stereo White Album.

I haven't looked at your link but it's probably for the very earliest loud cut mono pressed copy of Rubber Soul which only had a very short production run.

ATB

Steve

Sorry Steve, I should have left your ref to wiki in place. Your description refers to mastering, which I'm sure is true, but Wiki are suggesting the mono was released before stereo which I don't believe is true.

I've been trying to find out if my copy is loud cut, what identifies a loud cut.

Hi Fatcat,

Here's some information on the Loud Cut Rubber Soul.

It's taken from a reputable web site

http://yokono.co.uk/collection..._mono_p2.html#%236-1

As you can see the so called 'loud cut' was actually a kind of mis-press.

ATB

Steve

Steve.

Thanks for the info. Not good news I have -4 copy.

The seller in the link states there is no such thing as a loud cut, he's convinced people to bid over £500 on a copy with -5 matrix.

There's a lot of gullible people out there.

Well I'm a bit late to this party but at long last I have got my hands on my Beatles Box Set, it's been at my parents for a couple of weeks, I haven't opened it yet but thought I would ask a quick question now you guys have had plenty of time to go through all the albums and make opinions, if you had to chose 2 albums for the best sound quality what would they be?

I only ask as tonight I want to sit back and enjoy a couple of albums before working my way through the whole set so it will be nice to start with a couple that show the box set in the best light.

Cheers.

Hi Paul. I am pleased with most of the albums, but the two that stand out for me are Past Masters & Sgt Pepper. Enjoy.

regards Graham.

Thanks Graham, I had a couple of issues last night so still haven't got round to un-boxing the albums, glad to hear that you're happy with Sgt Pepper though as if I'm honest that will probably get the most use, I can only imagine the impact that album must have had on release. 

popmarket are selling the new boxset for £212 including delivery