Your Preferred Ninth? Four Seasons?

Posted by: Russ on 30 September 2012

Now that I have decided to move gradually streaming only, I intend to be very careful of my music purchases in general and my hidef downloads in particular.  I have decided my first download will be Kleiber's Fifth and Seventh in 24 x 88.  Since I already own the CD, it will be a great test of whether my ear is capable of distinguishing between this level and 16 x 44. 

 

After that, my next two acquisitions will be LVB's Ninth and Vivaldi's "Four Seasons".  Somehow, I came out of a long-ago divorce owning neither.  I will, of course, engage in much listening prior to purchase, but I would like to pose the following questions to the house:

 

1.  What is your favorite recording of Beethoven's Ninth?  I am interested in your opinions, not only of the best performance ever recorded--but as a budding audiophile still obsessed with hearing the best possible sounds from my equipment, I would also like your assessment of the production values of the recording(s).

 

2.  Same question for the Vivaldi's Four Seasons Concertos.  I am leaning toward Linn's 24 x 192 Avison Ensemble download, just to get the feel of that level of SQ and whether, again, I am capable of discerning the difference.  Also, having listened to the trailers on their site, I like their rendition, but I would be very interested in your opinions.

 

3.  I know about the folks at Linn Music, but is it acceptable on this forum to ask members' opinions about the integrity and product value of other specific download providers?

 

Thanks,

 

Russ

Posted on: 20 October 2012 by Bert Schurink

For the four seasons, perthaps not the best ones but two at least interesting and engaging interpretations:

 

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Posted on: 20 October 2012 by Russ

Thanks to you Bert.  I am not familiar with either of these.  By the way, I don't know if I said that I was able to dig out the Stern/Zuckerman/Mintz/Perlman/Mehta version from our storage unit.  And I got to thinking, if those boys were to take a few lessons and practice a little more, they might turn into pretty good fiddlers. 

 

Russ

Posted on: 25 January 2013 by Russ

Thought I would do a followup on this thread with regard to Vivaldi.  Although I still like the Stern/Zuckerman/Mintz/Perlman CD, I have settled on "Classic Music Studio Orchestra" version. 

 

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Posted on: 25 January 2013 by DrMark

I have these on mono vinyl, but they might be available for download...

 

 

Posted on: 25 January 2013 by Russ

Don't know about download, but the whole set is available online from a noted seller at bargain prices.  Thanks, Doc.

 

I am getting ready to take George Frederick's recommendation and order the Klemperer, but the only copy I can find is nearly 40 USD.  I guess a lot of people agree with his Georgeness.   

 

Russ

Posted on: 26 January 2013 by Bert Schurink

Now a complete different but very attractive re-composed version of the Four Seasons:

 

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And of course also a traditional one:

 

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Posted on: 26 January 2013 by George Fredrik
Originally Posted by Russ:

Don't know about download, but the whole set is available online from a noted seller at bargain prices.  Thanks, Doc.

 

I am getting ready to take George Frederick's recommendation and order the Klemperer, but the only copy I can find is nearly 40 USD.  I guess a lot of people agree with his Georgeness.   

 

Russ

http://www.testament.co.uk/

 

Dear Russ,

 

Please don't spend $40 on this. You can buy it from the Testamant Online shop. Put Klemperer into the search engine and look down the list of rare and wonderful [mainly live] recordings and seven down you will find:

 
SBT1332
 
Which is the recording I am recommending, and for the pricely sum of £10.99, plus I guess some postage.
 
Best of luck with it!
 
ATB from George
Posted on: 26 January 2013 by Russ

Thanks very much, George.  I am going to look at that site now.  I had not ever heard of or come across it, so your suggestion is exciting to say the least.  And my first impression when I read your reply was how great Royal Mail has been to the U.S. for us at least.  Then, it got through my inch-thick skull--if you download, nothing gets mailed.  Duhhhh, to say the least.  Have a great evening and best regards.

 

Russ

Posted on: 26 January 2013 by George Fredrik

Dear Russ,

 

I listened to this earlier for you.

 

Not exactly "hifi" but still viscerally involving. I sincerely hope that the performance and recording brings you real enjoyment. Please do let me know. If not on the Forum, then my email is in my profile ...

 

It a very fast performance, yet more precise than anything from Toscanini for example - faster than some HIP efforts - and the choir is the best and most bound together I have ever heard in a recording. They never go flat, and the tight Royal Festival Hal acoustic lends them a precision that is almost unique in any recorded choral music. The first three movements - in hind-sight - seem a mere preparation, though that is hardly fair ...

 

Very best wishes from George

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...&feature=related

 

10 years later, Klemperer's last concert in the same place with the same orschestra, and even here you can garner that there was a real natural phenomenon of music present, though 86 years old ...

Posted on: 26 January 2013 by Russ
Will do, George.  Thanks for your advice.

Best regards,

Russ
Posted on: 26 January 2013 by George Fredrik

Dear Russ, I added to my above post for you. A nice youtube ... ATB from George

Posted on: 28 January 2013 by Ron Toolsie

I have a handful of recordings of 'The Four Seasons'. For some reason the one I return to is also  the least expensive- a budget reissue on the EMI Classics for Pleasure label, featuring Kenneth Sillito on violin, and originally recorded in 1973. I first heard this at my local Linn/Naim dealer back in the early 1980s, on a (what else) Linn/Naim system and was captivated. For the full retail price at the time of circa 2 UKP this was unbeatable, and is both a very fine performance and recording. The vinyl is still available on internet auction sites for less than $10US. 

 

It was also largely this recording that convinced me that Kans were not for me, so I returned them for a refund and kept on using my Tangent RS4 speakers that portrayed this performance so very much better. 

Posted on: 31 January 2013 by kuma
Produkt-InformationOriginally Posted by Bert Schurink: Now a complete different but very attractive re-composed version of the Four Seasons:



Just ordered the Max Richter Vivaldi in vinyl.

 

 

 



This one is pretty good. I like the fiddle player so it helps. ( she's not a Sunday brunch variety )

Posted on: 31 January 2013 by George Fredrik

I agree with Ron T's reko for the Four Seasons. A beautiful recording of a superb performance. EMI's Classic's For Pleasure and Eminence [super budget and slightly less so] labels recorded with the same care and quality which marked out their premium HMV line with most carefully selected artists who were not the most famous, but deserved exposure.

 

I miss this approach nowadays.

 

ATB from George