Why I have chosen my first Naim - Qute

Posted by: dariushifi on 16 October 2012

Hello everybody. I am a new Naim sound convert and I would like to share my experience why I have chosen Unitiqute.

Just last week I have auditioned Unitiqute v Uniti 2v SU. Liked all three of Naims.  Tried them With mp3, Flac CD and Hi-res different files intensively for good three hours. (thanks to retailer).Started with the smallest Unitiqute and went up to SU. In a process I could  sense how sound was changing each time  and every time adding a bit more clarity, a bit more control over speakers, bass control was getting tighter. Especially by increasing the volume, SU ended  sounding simply perfect to my taste. In a way that was one of the reason  why I ended up ordering Unitiqute.  I explain you why.

I live in a Flat and have only 14sqm living room, therefore  loud music is a big No No. SU volume set at 40-45 is simply heaven to my ears, but can not imagine it at my place.  I heard so much detail and I felt like an addict wanting for more and more, more volume more detail. Unitiqute sounded different but slightly more engaging at level 30-35, loudness option made bass just right to my taste.

The price was another reason for choosing Unitiqute over SU or Unity. 3 times ....It it is a big difference. Uniti 2 was the same 2.7 times difference only with CD tray which I don’t need. Yes, I agree, both of them  sounded a bit more powerful a bit more detailed than Qute. Although  that difference was getting more noticeable by increasing volume to the level which I am not going to listen to anyway. Having sad that, if I was going to go full Monty I would of gone for SU.

 B&W 685 speakers in demo room sounded at their maximum best and were very  satisfying. As I have 685’s at home myself, I was pleased that Naim brought them to next level. Before demo I was always under impression that if I buy one of Naim’s I will need to buy Proac or Neat speakers as well, but demo just proved something quite different. I decided to keep 685’s for  some time as they are such a good value for a such detail sound together with Naim. Now, of cause  more expensive Spendors, Neats, PMCs would sound different, but  not necessarily better. I will try one day once I will be prepared to fork out £1500 or so for new speakers. It would have to be very convincing to justify 5 times price to beat my old 685’s

However, before I started listening to  Qute at home,  I realised that display appeared smaller than it looked  in the shop and much smaller than my previous Onkyo 8050, I have struggled to scroll through file list sitting in  my listening chair. I was used to read no problem before so that became very apparent and a bit annoying I should say. Apple owners would get around this with control apps, but not me. Once It started playing, it returned a smile on my face. Yes it sounded even better  than at the shop. Gradually I started to forget  small display issue and just enjoyed. Stereo  image was striking and detail, instrument separation was better and especial hi-res files sounded as never before. I could feel more distinctive improvement between cd and hi-res files, than Onkyo’s.  Another small annoying thing I found that it does not play consecutive folders. You have actually go back to library and choose one. Onkyo used to play it all day no problem in order  files were in library.

Other than that very happy with Naims sound . 30 watt amp is surprisingly punchy and never past 40 volume mark. Even my wife have noticed that Qute sounded different from Onkyo, more detailed and ‘crisp’ she said. Qute is ideal for my low volume listening in our ordinary small London flat.

 

How and why you chosen your Naim.

Posted on: 16 October 2012 by DomTomLondon
Thanks for sharing your story. I too have recently purchased the unitiQute. I live in a 2 bedroom London Flat and wanted to swap my seperates for a small all-in-one that would sound as good as my previous setup. Which was a NAS /SlimDevices Transporter/Music First passive preamp/Linn AV 5125 power amp/Kef Q10s. I picked up the UnitiQute and I lovers fact that this one unit replaced all my other boxes. Unfortunately, although very good, it does not sound as full and rich as my old setup, so I've since hooked up a pair of Musical fidelity mono block x50s to the UnitiQute and have got most of that great sound back, and the system takes up very little space. I would love for Naim to come out with a Power Amp or two mono amps in the same small form factor to match the UnitiQute.
Posted on: 16 October 2012 by jobseeker

As it happens, I'm also just now looking for something to replace my Onkyo TX-8050 for some non critical listening in the lounge. Actually, the Onkyo's habit of just continuing to play the next album in the list after the one I've chosen irritates the hell out of me. A nice amp for the money though, but the streaming control app is rather under developed (display no good as it's in a cupboard). Obviously, the Qute is on the list, but I may revisit the Cyrus Streamline and have a look at the Sneaky DS just to be thorough.

Posted on: 16 October 2012 by Russ

Darius: Congratulations on your decision, especially with regard to finding the best equipment for your particular listening position.  I followed much the same thought processes you did in selecting between the same three all-in-one units.  Because I am much less familiar with streaming than you seem to be, I leaned for a long time to the Uniti2--and its integrated CD player.  I finally decided to enter the Twenty-First Century and opt for streaming all the way.  I was unable to audition the Uniti2 in any case, but could have tried the Qute out with my choice of speakers.  I did not, partially because I was hearing from others that the SU had more of the kind of presentation I was after, partially due to the stated 87 db efficiency of my speakers, and the possible need for more power, and the fact that the room in which I will ultimately be using it is quite large--about 5 meters wide by 10 meters or more long.  I do not play music loud as a rule, but those were the reasons for my decision.  However, I have heard so many others praise both the Uniti and the Qute as superior in presentation.  Who knows--if I ever hear a Qute, I may regret my decision.  But so far, I am very happy.

 

Again, warmest regards and congratulations,

 

Russ

Posted on: 16 October 2012 by caftan

Welcome to the forum and congrats on your purchase. I have heard the unitiqute connected to a pair of Neat Motive 3 (85db, 8ohms though) at the dealer place. They really shock me with the amount of music they produced!! Definitely sounded way bigger than its size.

Posted on: 18 October 2012 by dariushifi

Thank you for replies guys.

Following Russ reply I think I would off chosen SU as well. I think big room is the place where SU can open up. Streaming with Naim is very easy and rewording.  I would encourage Russ to move into 21 st century. I think Unity 2 is the unit exactly for Russ needs. To me It is very close to SU sound plus you always can play your CDs.

Posted on: 18 October 2012 by dariushifi
Originally Posted by DomTomLondon:
 I would love for Naim to come out with a Power Amp or two mono amps in the same small form factor to match the UnitiQute.

 

According to  my local dealer  following the popularity of Qute, Nap 100 power amp  is under development and expected Spring next year.   I can’t wait to have a demo. It is on the top of my imaginary Naim’s list.

Posted on: 19 October 2012 by DomTomLondon
A NAP 100 would be very nice indeed. Just to give the Qute a little more punch. Let's hope your dealer is right.
Posted on: 23 October 2012 by Hudsy

Thanks for sharing and welcome to the club.

 

I picked up a Qute several months ago and I really enjoy listening to it.  I have it on all of the time and it always brings a smile to my face and starts my toes tapping.

 

I did find that at low listening levels that it was lacking a little punch.  I recently acquired an old NAP 250 and since this addition it's simply amazing the sound and presentation.

 

Posted on: 26 October 2012 by dariushifi
Originally Posted by Hudsy:

 

I did find that at low listening levels that it was lacking a little punch.  I recently acquired an old NAP 250 and since this addition it's simply amazing the sound and presentation.

 

Interesting  Hudsy.

I also would like to try Uniqute with power amp. Somehow I tend to believe my local dealer that there will be power  amp specially made for Uniqute next spring. I  will be the first to demo it.

Has anybody tried Uniqute with power line or power supply?

Posted on: 27 October 2012 by thebiglebowski

I run my qute through my 202/200 combo and the radio and streamed music sound amazing. I recently tried the qute driving my SBLs direct and despite the 35w it does a very good job. 

Posted on: 28 October 2012 by dariushifi
Originally Posted by thebiglebowski:

I run my qute through my 202/200 combo and the radio and streamed music sound amazing.

May I ask you thebiglebowski

Have you tried  to connect qute straight to nap 200 and if you did please share with your findings? Or Is it  Necessary to have 202/200 combo? I would like to add power amp to Qute, but only don't know the best. most efficiant  way to do that. My dealer said that Nap200 is a bit overkill for Qute and future Nap 100 is to be developed especialy for Qute. He advised me to wait till spring. What would be your take on it.

Posted on: 28 October 2012 by dariushifi
Originally Posted by jobseeker:

Obviously, the Qute is on the list, but I may revisit the Cyrus Streamline and have a look at the Sneaky DS just to be thorough.


Jobseeker,

How is search for Onkyo 8050 replacement going on. Have you compared already your three contenders?

How you rate all three. I was looking all three as well and end up with Qute.

Posted on: 28 October 2012 by Hudsy
Originally Posted by dariushifi:

My dealer said that Nap200 is a bit overkill for Qute and future Nap 100 is to be developed especialy for Qute. He advised me to wait till spring. What would be your take on it.

 

 

That's interesting what your dealer is saying about a NAP200 being overkill for the Qute.  What was his rationale for thinking that it would be overkill? When I think of overkill I would think that the size of the room and a bigger amp not that an amp would be for a pre.

 

Don't get me wrong, but could it be the dealer wanting to buy new from him for the sale rather than losing the business to you picking up a s/h NAP somewhere else?

 

As I had previously posted the Qute through a converted Naim SNAIC (rca to xlr) directly into the NAP250 sounds outstanding.  At first I had it running into a NAC32.5/Hicap/250 and it sounded great but taking the extra hops out made it really shine.

Posted on: 28 October 2012 by jobseeker
Originally Posted by dariushifi:
Originally Posted by jobseeker:

Obviously, the Qute is on the list, but I may revisit the Cyrus Streamline and have a look at the Sneaky DS just to be thorough.


Jobseeker,

How is search for Onkyo 8050 replacement going on. Have you compared already your three contenders?

How you rate all three. I was looking all three as well and end up with Qute.

I haven't listened to Linn, though they appear slightly more complex to set up. The cyrus offerings concern me a little with regard to potential bugginess in the operating software, as does Musical Fidelity. The UQ seems top of the list at the moment and good value.

Posted on: 28 October 2012 by joacim bengtsson
Dariushifi, Hudsy et.al I to have bought a Unitiqute, and later added a NAP 200. The NAP was a worthwhile upgrade for me and in my rather large room 10 x near 5 meters. Although not necessary, I too am interested in knowing how adding a pre (NAC 202) affects sound. My guess is that since there is no work-load taken of the qute and at the same time the NAP gets the additional job of powering the NAC there will be no real gain soundwise... But adding the NAC sets you up for adding a separate streamer, which should be a significant jump soundwise. Anyones experience or opinions about qute through NAC vs directly into NAP would be very much appreciated! /Joacim
Posted on: 29 October 2012 by thebiglebowski

I've got my qute going via 202 into the 200 but the 202 is also powered by a hicap and napsc. Disabling the amp section on the qute does make a huge difference to the sound quality and the difference between qute to speakers and qute to 202 is noticable. The qute does a good job and with its 35w manages it well considering. 

 

I haven't tried the qute direct into the 200 though as I don't have a 4 pin din to rca cable and won't bother as I'm selling the 202/200 combo at the mo and just keeping the qute.