Your Music Collection - Which Era?

Posted by: GraemeH on 01 November 2012

Prompted by the 'Bored' thread I was reflecting on my disinterest in most (not all) 'new' 'artists' (not 'music') since about 1980.

 

The majority of my collection spans 1950's (jazz) to early 80's (rock & Blues) and with that I'm quite happy.  No real desire to search out something which hasn't crossed my path by dint of its sheer excellence....

 

What era forms the majority of your music collection?

 

G

Posted on: 01 November 2012 by George Fredrik

Not my favourite either. I was thinking ASMOF.

 

Please tell!

 

ATB from George

Posted on: 01 November 2012 by Russ

With respect, I for one would never claim that any sound reproduction would or ever could have greater fidelity than the live performance--after all--in order to have any fidelity at all--and to any thing--there must be a thing to which the fidelity attaches.  All I would say is that although the live performance may well be "better" or "truer"--after all, it is the real thing--when I listen in the quiet of my living room--no one coughs, including me--if the guy in the 101st row, just in front of me, should leet flee a farte/as great as though it were a thunder dent-- I do not detect it--and if I myself leet flee, there is a certain familiarity to my own that renders it somehow less offensive to me.  Not the best argument for CD or vinyl, I must admit--but at least a start.

 

Cheers,

 

Russ

Posted on: 01 November 2012 by Tony2011
Originally Posted by George Fredrik:

Not my favourite either. I was thinking ASMOF.

 

Please tell!

 

ATB from George

If you mean,  ASMITF, Marriner has always been the face of it, americans and tourists alike love it , after all every business needs a face. He's done a great deal to the middle of the road, access for all, classical music. There are numerous recordings, as you know, mainly NEXUS( still evoking his "great" performances). The orchestra and mostly recognised, and still active choir, still carry the torch and "image". It's for turist really and a few friends in "higher ground.

KR

Tony

Posted on: 01 November 2012 by George Fredrik

Dear Russ,,

 

There is a clear fart in a RFH 1957 concert given by the Philharmonia with Dr Klemperer!

 

I will personally award a Havana Cigar to the person who tells us all where this is. 

 

Clue: On a BBC/Testament CD!

 

ATB from George

Posted on: 01 November 2012 by George Fredrik
Originally Posted by Tony2011:
Originally Posted by George Fredrik:

Not my favourite either. I was thinking ASMOF.

 

Please tell!

 

ATB from George

If you mean,  ASMITF, Marriner has always been the face of it, americans and tourists alike love it , after all every business needs a face. He's done a great deal to the middle of the road, access for all, classical music. There are numerous recordings, as you know, mainly NEXUS( still evoking his "great" performances). The orchestra and mostly recognised, and still active choir, still carry the torch and "image". It's for turist really and a few friends in "higher ground.

KR

Tony

Dear Tony

 

Yes, What used to be called in the "Gramphone" catalogue, ASMF. I was taught bass by one who occasionally deputised in recording sessions under Sir Neville. His recollection of these events was not wholely charitable.

 

For me the recordings have a sort of genteel non-entity status compared to efforts made under different conditions. 

 

I have only two ASMF recordings and they are rather fine. Dvorak; String and Wind Serenades. Otherwise none of them survived competition from other recordings.

 

But who is your Trafalgar Square hero? I am agog!

 

ATB from George

Posted on: 01 November 2012 by Tony2011

Ohhhh, it's got to be Lord Nelson.

Nighty night, George!

KR

Tony

Posted on: 01 November 2012 by George Fredrik

Dobra Noc, and its only Thursday!

 

ATB from George

Posted on: 01 November 2012 by Russ

GF: Well, damn it all, now I HAVE to have that recording--and will go about finding it.  If one were able to ascertain precisely where the microphones were placed during the recording, one might even be able to hone in on whether it emanated from the concert master or the third-chair horn player.  One hopes it could not have been the Maestro himself--but if so, it would no doubt have been executed at exactly the right time, and with perfect dynamics.  A female acquaintance of mine who appeared once, long ago on a U.S. talent show called "The Ted Mack Amateur Hour" claims she was beaten out by a small dog which farted "The Star Spangled Banner" in its entirety.  Given the Puritanical spirit of those times, I somehow doubt the truth of her assertion.  Nonetheless, it would be tempting, if one had unlimited funds at his disposal, to produce an outstanding recording of Beethoven's Fifth--with the first four notes augmented.  Or better still, the 1812 Overture--though the challenges of beefing up ALL of the cannon shots would be far greater.

 

Whoever said I had no place in the appreciation of great music?

 

Best regards,

 

Russ

Posted on: 02 November 2012 by EJS

Only a Sith deals in absolutes...

 

Cheers,

 

EJ

Posted on: 02 November 2012 by Guido Fawkes
Originally Posted by VladtheImpala:

How on earth can you have better fidelity than being in the same room as the performers?

........

Vlad

Vlad 

 

Surely the discipline of the studio and the production and the igneous way modern composers construct their composition using modern technology.

 

As you say yourself even John Dowland was an advocate of ProTools. History tells us he had do the gigs around the palaces to earn a crust, when he'd have much sooner been at Abbey Road laying down a new lute track for his big hit single The Passionate Pilgrim.   

 

Think I'll see if any body wants to buy my autographed copy of the First Book of Songs CD on evil bay.

 

I always think of the studio cut as what the artist intended and the live rendition as his or best best endeavours rendition of that definitive recording. 

 

I'm sure if Ludwig van Beethoven were around today he'd be with Jeff Lynne in the studio seeing if he could put together the new Eldorado - think he'd find it hard though, but I'm sure he wouldn't roll over. Ludwig was the dude who invented the heavy metal riff 

 

Posted on: 02 November 2012 by Guido Fawkes

or was that Ritche Blackmore 

 

 

All the best, Guy 

Posted on: 02 November 2012 by Quad 33
Originally Posted by Gale 401:

From the late 50s 60s lots from the 70s/80s/90s up to? and including now.

Still buying music from the 60s and 70s,

Comes from being the wrong side of 55.

Stu.

Same here Stu.When & Where did the time go ? Like Guido & the Birds "Ah but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now"

 

Regards Graham.

Posted on: 02 November 2012 by Cbr600
Originally Posted by Quad 33:
Originally Posted by Gale 401:

From the late 50s 60s lots from the 70s/80s/90s up to? and including now.

Still buying music from the 60s and 70s,

Comes from being the wrong side of 55.

Stu.

Same here Stu.When & Where did the time go ? Like Guido & the Birds "Ah but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now"

 

Regards Graham.

+1 for the "mature" gang

Posted on: 02 November 2012 by FangfossFlyer
Originally Posted by Guido Fawkes:

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Ah but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now 


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Cool...a quote from Bob and from the 1st LP I bought: The Byrds "Younger Than Yesterday"

 

Richard

Posted on: 02 November 2012 by VladtheImpala
Originally Posted by Guido Fawkes:
Originally Posted by VladtheImpala:

How on earth can you have better fidelity than being in the same room as the performers?

........

Vlad

Vlad 

 

Surely the discipline of the studio and the production and the igneous way modern composers construct their composition using modern technology.

 

As you say yourself even John Dowland was an advocate of ProTools. History tells us he had do the gigs around the palaces to earn a crust, when he'd have much sooner been at Abbey Road laying down a new lute track for his big hit single The Passionate Pilgrim.   

 

Think I'll see if any body wants to buy my autographed copy of the First Book of Songs CD on evil bay.

 

I always think of the studio cut as what the artist intended and the live rendition as his or best best endeavours rendition of that definitive recording. 

 

I'm sure if Ludwig van Beethoven were around today he'd be with Jeff Lynne in the studio seeing if he could put together the new Eldorado - think he'd find it hard though, but I'm sure he wouldn't roll over. Ludwig was the dude who invented the heavy metal riff 

 

Can't see Beethoven settling for a Beatles substitute!

 

I'd always imagined Beethoven in a rather pompous stadium band. Perhaps one that was keyboard-led, inordinately proud of their "musicianship", travels round in three articulated lorries with their initials on the top, has a three-ton drum kit and an individual persian rug..............name escapes me for the moment.

 

Mozart would have been in ABBA, I reckon and Bach in Tonto's Expanding Headband. Satie is still "getting it together in the country" but will appear with the reformed Guns'N'Roses on their new album. Tchaikovsky is fronting Queen. No one of any merit would be in a Zappa band.

 

Paganini is multi-tracking his solos on Garageband for his colloraboration with some Black Metallers in Oslo.

 

Vlad

Posted on: 02 November 2012 by Guido Fawkes

Vlad says > I'd always imagined Beethoven in a rather pompous stadium band. Perhaps one that was keyboard-led, inordinately proud of their "musicianship", travels round in three articulated lorries with their initials on the top, has a three-ton drum kit and an individual persian rug..............name escapes me for the moment.


Good call BELP ... Welcome back my friends to the Eroica that never ends ... eh. We so glad you attend .... dom dom dom dah dom dom dom dah .... there upon upon bassoona are Brahms, Liszt  and Mahler, BLMular, spectacular .... come and see the show, it's a dynamo 


I can almost hear young Wolfie Amadeus saying I am Perfect are You


I guess all these famous rockers playing to Carnival number 9, number 9 might even please Mr Lennon as much as Jeff 


Paganini in Mayhem eh ... now there's a variation.


All the best, Guy . 

Posted on: 04 November 2012 by mudwolf

this finally became too much for me to follow.  I love music live and I love it on my stereo, vinyl or CD, tho having mucho problems getting it onto hard disc. 

 

Russ lets have some whiskey I'll buy.  Lets try several specialty malts to taste.

George some day I''m coming over there and meet you.  

I was caregiver to my folks who have now passed.  I'm almost free to fly.

I will NOT drive on the other side of the road.!!!!!!!!!

 

Bucket list.

Edinburgh Festival and a Scots game, rugby, above all GARDENS!!!!!!

Posted on: 04 November 2012 by The Hawk
Originally Posted by GraemeH:

The majority of my collection spans 1950's (jazz) to early 80's (rock & Blues) and with that I'm quite happy.

+1. (And a little bit of early 90's grunge)

Posted on: 04 November 2012 by Russ

mudwolf: Thanks for the gracious invitation.  Unfortunately, I had to give up whiskey (and beer for that matter) after an unfortunate misunderstanding right after I turned forty.  I was what we in the South called a "badass".  The bad news was that when I got all liquored up, I was a far worse ass--but not nearly as bad as I had ever thought.

 

Russ

Posted on: 04 November 2012 by DrMark

" No one of any merit would be in a Zappa band." 

 

Игорь Стравинский would be.

 

The funny thing is how many great musicians of merit also were, and would disagree with you.

Posted on: 05 November 2012 by VladtheImpala
Originally Posted by DrMark:

" No one of any merit would be in a Zappa band." 

 

Игорь Стравинский would be.

 

The funny thing is how many great musicians of merit also were, and would disagree with you.

Sorry for the wind-up. Zappa's not thought of very highly in this household!

 

My Cyrillic is a non-existent - to whom are you referring?
Vlad

Posted on: 05 November 2012 by EJS
Originally Posted by VladtheImpala:
Originally Posted by DrMark:

" No one of any merit would be in a Zappa band." 

 

Игорь Стравинский would be.

 

The funny thing is how many great musicians of merit also were, and would disagree with you.

Sorry for the wind-up. Zappa's not thought of very highly in this household!

 

My Cyrillic is a non-existent - to whom are you referring?
Vlad

Igor Stravinsky...

Posted on: 05 November 2012 by VladtheImpala
Originally Posted by EJS:
Originally Posted by VladtheImpala:
Originally Posted by DrMark:

" No one of any merit would be in a Zappa band." 

 

Игорь Стравинский would be.

 

The funny thing is how many great musicians of merit also were, and would disagree with you.

Sorry for the wind-up. Zappa's not thought of very highly in this household!

 

My Cyrillic is a non-existent - to whom are you referring?
Vlad

Igor Stravinsky...

I may not be much, but I am at least consistently dim. Stravinsky or Vai? Here come the tone rows!