OPPO BDP-95EU

Posted by: fasterbyelan on 08 November 2012

The OPPO BDP-95EU player  with its uprated audio circuit seems to be a hit with the critics giving quality sound over a variety of formats.  It is soon to be replaced by the OPPO BDP-105EU.  I would be interested to hear members comments on the sound quality of this player, in particular those who have used one for a while, as I am considering replacing my stop-gap Sony Blu-ray player with one.

 

Regards,

 

Karl

Posted on: 10 November 2012 by Paul@HiFi Lounge

I've been using the Oppo BDP-95 for around a year now, It is actually for sale as I'm going to get a BDP-105, the 95  is a fantastic player though, especailly if you go to the trouble of hooking up the analogue outputs, this is where it comes into its own.

 

Before getting the 95 I used to use the mighty Denon A1UD which retailed for around £5k but I actually preferred the 95, picture quality was very similar but I preferred the audio characteristics of the 95, it just had more energy and dynamics, obviously important for films.

 

I really don't think you would be disappointed  

Posted on: 10 November 2012 by fasterbyelan

Thank Paul.  I am interested in the SACD quality via the analogue o/p (two channel), can you comment on this feature ?

 

Regards,

 

Karl

Posted on: 11 November 2012 by Neill Ferguson

bit negative from my I see no point in spending money on a source when Panasonic do decent players that cost less than half the Oppo. 

Posted on: 11 November 2012 by tonym

Although PQ on BluRay players IMO are pretty similar, when it comes to sound Oppo are streets ahead. My trusty old BD83SE player is superb through its analogue outputs and although I seldom play SACDs or DVD-As, these do sound very good indeed. I like Oppo...

Posted on: 13 November 2012 by Paul@HiFi Lounge
Originally Posted by fasterbyelan:

Thank Paul.  I am interested in the SACD quality via the analogue o/p (two channel), can you comment on this feature ?

 

Regards,

 

Karl

Karl, In all honesty I don't think you will get better than the analogue section in the Oppo BDP-95 in any other BD player around today, this is where it truly excels, when it was reviewed in Stereophile with the Bryston SP3 by the very respected reviewer Kal Rubinson he commented regarding SACD multichannel playback -

 

'This was the first time in a very long time that I had enjoyed convincing multichannel high-resolution sound without a digital processor. Chalk it up to the excellent analog signals provided by the Oppo, but also, in no small measure, to the Bryston SP-3's utterly transparent sound.'


So obviously for 2ch SACD playback you'll still get that great presentation, when I still had my A1UD I did a direct comparison of the analogues with the 95 and I much preferred the 95, it had more energy and life to it with the A1UD being a little flatter and un-involving.

 

I'm pretty sure you won't be disappointed when it comes to audio quality.

 

I've actually got my 95 for sale as I make way for a 105 if that is of any interest.

Posted on: 14 November 2012 by fasterbyelan
Originally Posted by Paul@HiFi Lounge:
Originally Posted by fasterbyelan:
Thank Paul.  I am interested in the SACD quality via the analogue o/p (two channel), can you comment on this feature ?

Regards,

Karl
Karl, In all honesty I don't think you will get better than the analogue section in the Oppo BDP-95 in any other BD player around today, this is where it truly excels, when it was reviewed in Stereophile with the Bryston SP3 by the very respected reviewer Kal Rubinson he commented regarding SACD multichannel playback -

'This was the first time in a very long time that I had enjoyed convincing multichannel high-resolution sound without a digital processor. Chalk it up to the excellent analog signals provided by the Oppo, but also, in no small measure, to the Bryston SP-3's utterly transparent sound.'


So obviously for 2ch SACD playback you'll still get that great presentation, when I still had my A1UD I did a direct comparison of the analogues with the 95 and I much preferred the 95, it had more energy and life to it with the A1UD being a little flatter and un-involving.

I'm pretty sure you won't be disappointed when it comes to audio quality.

I've actually got my 95 for sale as I make way for a 105 if that is of any interest.
Thanks again for your reply.  I am interested in the newer version but thanks for the offer.

I did contact Oppo regarding the streaming options on the new model, I'm interested in the availablity of BBC iPlayer (my Sony player does support such).  Their reply is  -

'Hello Karl
We are looking at a number of options but we cannot comment on any till they become reality. However the Roku Streaming Stick does incude iPlayer, and our new models directly support the Roku stick which is coming soon.

Best Regards Henry OPPO UK Service OPPO BD UK Ltd 42 Hellesdon Park Road Norwich, NR6 5DR United Kingdom UK: 0845 060 9395 EU: +44 1603 402240'
I may hold off until the iPlayer is confirmed, as I don't really want another piece of equipment and remote control
(although the Roku stick looks to be a good idea). For some reason the iPlayer via the TV is of poor quality when
compared to the Sony Blu-ray player. I can only think that the up-scaling in the former is not as good as that
carried out by my AVR to which the latter is connected too.
Karl
Posted on: 17 November 2012 by Don Atkinson

Does a Blu-ray dvd on the Oppo 95 (or Oppo 105) sound better than the ame Standard dvd on a Naim dvd5 ?

Does a standard dvd on the Oppo sound better than athe same standard dvd on a Naim dvd5 ?

 

Cheers

 

Don

 

 

Posted on: 17 November 2012 by MDS
Originally Posted by Don Atkinson:

Does a Blu-ray dvd on the Oppo 95 (or Oppo 105) sound better than the ame Standard dvd on a Naim dvd5 ?

Does a standard dvd on the Oppo sound better than athe same standard dvd on a Naim dvd5 ?

 

Cheers

 

Don

 

 

Don

 

I've got an n-Vi which I think has a similar DVD player as the DVD5 but with the processing and amplification. I've also got an Oppo 93 Blu-ray player which is connected to the n-Vi.  The n-Vi plays DVDs to a quality I've not seen bettered by any other DVD player (no doubt helped by my dealer setting it up properly, including the TV).  But the Blu-ray picture and sound quality of the Oppo consistently betters the DVDs played on the n-Vi. I should be very surprised if the higher spec Oppo's playing Blu-rays didn't similarly produce better sound, and picture, quality than a DVD5 playing standard DVDs.

MDS       

Posted on: 17 November 2012 by Don Atkinson

Many thanks MDS.

 

I looked at the DVD5 and N-Vi a few years ago. The DVD5 seemed to produce better sound and picture quality than the N-Vi, but not to a spectacular extent. Hence your comments are very helpful.

 

I appreciate that the DVD5 is no longer available (other than pre-loved) but it is a challenging benchmark for even Blu-ray players. There is a much wider range of music on standard dvd and very little on Blu-ray, so not an easy decision, unless the new Oppo 105 will produce superb sound from standard dvd sources - hence the second of my two queries.

 

Cheers

 

Don

Posted on: 17 November 2012 by MDS

Don

The Oppos play both DVDs and Blu-rays, of course, and lots of other sorts of discs.  I've not tried an A/B comparison with a standard DVD between the Oppo and n-Vi, basically because for a DVD it's easier to just pop it into the n-Vi.  I originally went with the n-Vi because I wanted a one-box AV solution and when I heard it at my dealer's I couldn't believe the power and quality of it (and I liked it because it was Naim!). When I wanted to add a decent quality Blu-ray player my dealer steered me towards Oppo.  I'd never even heard of them. But he also steered me towards the lower-spec model saying that the higher spec version, the 95, would be of no benefit with my n-Vi.  I've been very impressed with the Oppo - beautifully packaged and smooth and quiet in operation. It feels like it should cost a great deal more.  

 

All that said, I must add that my AV system is completely separate from my main CD system and in a separate room, so differences in sound quality between the Oppo and n-Vi are wholly limited to the sound capabilities of my n-Vi and Focal dome speakers.   I know some folk have their AV systems integrated into their main hi-fi systems which will usually be much more revealing of the source.  If that was your plan then please qualify my advice accordingly.

MDS

Posted on: 17 November 2012 by Don Atkinson

Thanks again, MDS

 

I have just noticed that my dealer now appears on the list of Oppo retailers, although Oppo equipment doesn't seem to feature on his website. I'll give them a call next week.

 

Cheers

 

Don

Posted on: 17 November 2012 by MDS

If you're tempted and get one do let us know how you get on, Don

Good luck.

MDS 

Posted on: 18 November 2012 by Don Atkinson

Will do,

 

Don

Posted on: 18 November 2012 by NickSeattle

No Component Video Out on the 105 is a show stopper for me, as I currently cannot use HDMI logistically.  I still prefer standard DVD for usability reasons, and the 95 upscales them beautifully.  

 

Am I correct that Analog Sunset does not impact standard DVD?

 

Nick

Posted on: 18 November 2012 by NickSeattle

Hi, Don,

 

FWIW, I bought the BDP-95 with the idea that it might replace my CD5X - FC2X.  Good as the 95 is, I had to keep the Naim CD system, which sounds better to me, as it should, given the price diff.  At least now I can play a SACD, if one ever turns up; and I needed a Blu-ray player anyway.

 

Nick

Posted on: 19 November 2012 by Don Atkinson

Nick,

 

many thanks for your comments.

 

I currently have a Pioneer LX08 Blu-ray player and it produces a good picture and pleasant sound.

 

I do enjoy music dvd's but keep thinking I would like to obtain a much better sound quality. 

 

The choice seems to be a second hand DVD5 v an OPPO95 or 105.

 

Cheers

 

Don

Posted on: 19 November 2012 by MDS
Originally Posted by NickSeattle:

Hi, Don,

 

FWIW, I bought the BDP-95 with the idea that it might replace my CD5X - FC2X.  Good as the 95 is, I had to keep the Naim CD system, which sounds better to me, as it should, given the price diff.  At least now I can play a SACD, if one ever turns up; and I needed a Blu-ray player anyway.

 

Nick

Nick - having talked up the Oppo I think it worth pointing out that its SACD capabilities are limited to analogue output only. As I understand it this is not so much a feature of the Oppo but the copyright software protection of SACD. This means there's no possibility that I could see of taking a digital output to, say, an nDAC. As you suggest, there doesn't seem to be many SACD disc about. I've only got the one: a hybrid Dark Side of the Moon  and the CD rendition on my CDX2/nDAC etc system is vastly better than the Oppo's SACD rendition via its analogue output into my n-Vi/Focal dome system.  There's big cost differential between the two systems so there should be a qualitative difference, of course, but the SACD's alleged higher definition offset by the analogue-only limitation hasn't exactly encouraged me to give the Oppo a trail in my main system.  A bit theoretical given the rarity of SACDs but I see from Don's profile that he has an nDAC, too, so I thought it worth pointing out this limitation.

MDS   

Posted on: 19 November 2012 by Don Atkinson

MDS

 

There must be a slight mistake somewhere, I don't have an nDAC and I don't see it in my profile. Perhaps Hoopless is at work again........?

 

Cheers

 

Don

Posted on: 19 November 2012 by MDS
Originally Posted by Don Atkinson:

MDS

 

There must be a slight mistake somewhere, I don't have an nDAC and I don't see it in my profile. Perhaps Hoopless is at work again........?

 

Cheers

 

Don

Oops. Sorry Don, it was my mistake. Must have clicked on the wrong profile. Don't know whose it was now!

Posted on: 19 November 2012 by Don Atkinson

Ooopps - no problem MDS,

 

Apolgies to Hoopless.

 

Cheers

 

Don

Posted on: 20 November 2012 by fasterbyelan
Originally Posted by MDS:
Nick - having talked up the Oppo I think it worth pointing out that its SACD capabilities are limited to analogue output only. As I understand it this is not so much a feature of the Oppo but the copyright software protection of SACD. This means there's no possibility that I could see of taking a digital output to, say, an nDAC. As you suggest, there doesn't seem to be many SACD disc about. I've only got the one: a hybrid Dark Side of the Moon  and the CD rendition on my CDX2/nDAC etc system is vastly better than the Oppo's SACD rendition via its analogue output into my n-Vi/Focal dome system.  There's big cost differential between the two systems so there should be a qualitative difference, of course, but the SACD's alleged higher definition offset by the analogue-only limitation hasn't exactly encouraged me to give the Oppo a trail in my main system.  A bit theoretical given the rarity of SACDs but I see from Don's profile that he has an nDAC, too, so I thought it worth pointing out this limitation.

MDS   

Regarding the SACD copyright issue, the Sony Blu-ray player I currently use does o/p the signal in a digital format as it is decoded in the AVR I use (a Denon AVR 3808- the relevant lights on the display illuminate accordingly). I would not wish to use the analogue o/p with this player as the SQ is grim!

 

To confuse the issue somewhat, I recently bought a Sony 9000ES DVD/SACD player and this does not o/p the SACD in digital format. However, the SQ via the analogue o/p's is much better than the player mentioned above.

 

One of the reasons I started the thread is to get a view on the Oppo SQ in the high res format. I may elect to have the 9000ES modified, as this is one way of obtaining the required SQ at a price I can afford. However, whilst I am still coming to terms with the sound it produces, in its present form it is not as good as my CD set up.

 

The answer to all of this is to demo an Oppo 105 next year at home. If the Oppo has a better SQ than the standard 9000ES I will buy one (with the added advantage that the Blu-ray performance should be a big step up from the current player). As I need/would like a 'good' CD/SACD player for my second system, the 9000ES fits the bill admirably.

 

Thanks for the feedback,

 

Karl

Posted on: 03 January 2013 by fasterbyelan

For info, I bought the Oppo 105 just before Christmas. The Bluray picture quality is impressive, I'm certainly not an expert but in all areas it is noticeably better than the Sony player I was previously using.

 

Regarding the audio performance, I need to let the player run in for a while longer before serious comment but at this stage the SACD performance is excellent whilst the CD sound is not quite up to my Audio Note DAC level, close but not quite so engaging. Early days though so we shall see (hear?!).

 

I'm also making use of it's streaming audio functionality via network (I am running Asset on a networked PC), controlling such via either Asset Control or PlugPlay (iPod Touch/ iPhone app). You can also plug a computer directly into the Oppo's DAC via an asynchronous USB i/p (software driver available on Oppo website).

 

Regarding its physical appearance, it has certainly enhanced the overall appearance of my A/V equipment. It is well made with a thick black aluminium front that gives it a low-key appearance (as befits Naim equipment) and the remote is first class. And for those that find such details important, the presentation /packaging in the box is the best I have seen.

 

I am quite taken……………………………..

 

Karl

Posted on: 03 January 2013 by MDS

Hi Karl

Thanks for update. The Oppo 105 certainly seems to be attracting a fan club - see Mike1380’s thoughts on the ‘Is it worth persisting with the nVi?’ thread.  

I very much agree with your thoughts on how well packaged the Oppo kit is. When I got my 93U it put me in mind of the beautiful Apple packaging that made opening my MacBook Pro such a delight. 

MDS