"Optimising" a Mac for use as a music server into DAC? [low jitter, BitPerfect App]

Posted by: Disposable hero on 23 November 2012

There is often reference to jitter and having as low a jitter as possible. If there is a MacBookPro which appears to be model 8.2 (late 2011) and it were relegated to music server duties, what preparations are best done to suit this purpose?

 

Is there any specific "jitter treatment" if it were required, and how can I find out about its jitter level?

 

Also there is mention on this forum about the BitPerfect from the Apple App store, it shows up as being an audiophile grade music player costing £6.99. Would this be a worthwhile download if used for creating a CD rip library, or is it not really worth it?

 

Is there anything else that could be done to optimise a MacBook to be used as a music server?

 

Thanks for any input.

Posted on: 24 November 2012 by Massimo Bertola

Disposable,

 

hi.

I have BitPerfect on my MacBookPro, I think its main purpose is to output bit perfect files and automatically select the files' format and bit rate, which iTunes does not.

Anyway, it only does this for the digital output, so when your MacBook is used with an external DAC.

 

For ripping duties, many say that XLD is a very good integration to iTunes, apparently ripping more accurately; this has not been proven so far yet, but it's true that XLD is a small, well functioning ripping software.

 

For playback duties, a software called Playback, by Yazsoft, enables easily and effectively your MacBook for UPnP operation (which the Mac is reluctant to do by itself); and there are many who think highly of 3rd party players (to be used in integration with, or in alternative to, iTunes), such as Amarra, Audirvana and others.

 

Many, then, think that iTunes is perfectly able to accurately rip and accurately replay files. You only need to configure it for the desired operation mode (format, bit rate, destination folder, automations).

 

Some say that the last generation of MacMinis has been optimized for low jitter and hence better sound; MacBookPros, anyway, are used by many here, and you will get a number of recommendations.

 

Best,

Max

Posted on: 24 November 2012 by Guido Fawkes
Originally Posted by maxbertola:

Disposable,

 

hi.

I have BitPerfect on my MacBookPro, I think its main purpose is to output bit perfect files and automatically select the files' format and bit rate, which iTunes does not.

Anyway, it only does this for the digital output, so when your MacBook is used with an external DAC.

 

Yes 

 

For ripping duties, many say that XLD is a very good integration to iTunes, apparently ripping more accurately; this has not been proven so far yet, but it's true that XLD is a small, well functioning ripping software.

 

It is not necessarily more accurate, just more careful and informative. 

 

For playback duties, a software called Playback, by Yazsoft, enables easily and effectively your MacBook for UPnP operation (which the Mac is reluctant to do by itself);

 

Apple does not make a UPnP server, so yes as Max says if you want to use a Mac for UPnP then use Playback ....  

 

and there are many who think highly of 3rd party players (to be used in integration with, or in alternative to, iTunes), such as Amarra, Audirvana and others.

 

Decibel is good for playing FLAC - otherwise iTunes/Bit Perfect is fine .. you can't do better than perfect. Other software may process the music in a way you like or disable processes that interfere with the player ... I am more than happy with iTunes/BP. In my set up iTunes/BP, PM and Audirvana produce exactly the same PCM output (not tried Amarra). 

 

Many, then, think that iTunes is perfectly able to accurately rip and accurately replay files. You only need to configure it for the desired operation mode (format, bit rate, destination folder, automations).

 

Yes

 

Some say that the last generation of MacMinis has been optimized for low jitter and hence better sound; MacBookPros, anyway, are used by many here, and you will get a number of recommendations.

 

Mac Mini has a customised CS audio chip that is very low jitter - not sure about other Macs, but I think they share the same audio architecture. If not then a hiFace will do the trick. If yes then a Supernova 6 optical cable works a treat. 

 

Best,

Max

Max ... hope you didn't mind me using your post, but you laid out all the points to consider really well so I thought I'd follow it and FWIW say yes I agree. 

Posted on: 24 November 2012 by Massimo Bertola

Guido,

 

I was hoping/expecting you'd arrive. I'm glad I made the points well enough to be of help.

 

Cheers

Max

Posted on: 04 December 2012 by Disposable hero

Hi maxbertola and Guido,

Thanks for these tips, it will be a cabled connection and right now I've got the Chord company Optichord. I'm aware that the WireWorld Supernova 6 is the cable of choice among forum users in these sorts of connections, I was unsure of spending that much for a cable (had a little search and the average prices are £130) so I'd got the cheaper Chord.

Posted on: 04 December 2012 by spartacus
Originally Posted by Disposable hero:

Hi maxbertola and Guido,

Thanks for these tips, it will be a cabled connection and right now I've got the Chord company Optichord. I'm aware that the WireWorld Supernova 6 is the cable of choice among forum users in these sorts of connections, I was unsure of spending that much for a cable (had a little search and the average prices are £130) so I'd got the cheaper Chord.

Disposable Hero, Don't worry about going for the Chord. My setup streaming wise is, QNAP NAS, Mac Mini, Optichord, Naim DAC, XPS 2 and it sounds great. I had the same view about the price of the Wireworld. I have yet to get hold of one on loan or something to see if it's worth the difference. Some argue that bits are bits so I need to hear it first.

Posted on: 04 December 2012 by Disposable hero

That is good to hear spartacus, also the QNAP you mention looks very useful too, it should easily contain an entire music collection.

Posted on: 04 December 2012 by Guido Fawkes

The Supernova 6 was a significant upgrade over the Chord plastic cable in my system ... whether it has the same effect in everybody's system I cannot say ... I thought the Chord and Belkin cables I tried were similar in SQ and so thought well bits are bits or is that words are words .... then I tried the Supernova 6 .... no more thoughts on USB to S/PDIF convertors. This is the best digital cable I have tried ... the MG is very very good but it does need an adapter. 

 

To me the Supernova 6 makes far more of difference than the various players some folk are impressed by ... iTunes BP is fine for me. 

 

See if you can persuade a friendly dealer to let you try one .... 

Posted on: 04 December 2012 by spartacus
Originally Posted by Guido Fawkes:

See if you can persuade a friendly dealer to let you try one .... 

Guido, I would really like to try a Supernova 6, especially hearing you recommend it so often and for such a long time (going by your posts) . Any suggestions on a dealer who stocks them? It could be something my other half can get me for Christmas.

Posted on: 04 December 2012 by mikapoh
Originally Posted by spartacus:
Originally Posted by Guido Fawkes:

See if you can persuade a friendly dealer to let you try one .... 

Guido, I would really like to try a Supernova 6, especially hearing you recommend it so often and for such a long time (going by your posts) . Any suggestions on a dealer who stocks them? It could be something my other half can get me for Christmas.

spartacus as your avatar's character suggest - be brave! Buy Supernova 6 with confidence. I bought mine 'blind' following Guido's recommendation & no remorse whatsoever.

 

 

Posted on: 04 December 2012 by NickSeattle

I love the swivel-ends on Supernova 6.  Scared me, at first, when they popped off.

 

Nick

Posted on: 05 December 2012 by spartacus
Originally Posted by mikapoh:
Originally Posted by spartacus:
Originally Posted by Guido Fawkes:

See if you can persuade a friendly dealer to let you try one .... 

Guido, I would really like to try a Supernova 6, especially hearing you recommend it so often and for such a long time (going by your posts) . Any suggestions on a dealer who stocks them? It could be something my other half can get me for Christmas.

spartacus as your avatar's character suggest - be brave! Buy Supernova 6 with confidence. I bought mine 'blind' following Guido's recommendation & no remorse whatsoever.

 

 

Ha ha..... free the slaves, Free the music!

Posted on: 17 December 2012 by Disposable hero

Hi spartacus, so what did you think about buying blind a Wireworld Supernova 6, if you did do it or are maybe pondering? If you do I will

Posted on: 17 December 2012 by likesmusic

If you use your Mac (or any other pc or computer) as a UPnP server  - ie to serve up music files over ethernet or wifi - then there are not and cannot be any issues with source jitter whatsoever.

 

This is one of the inherent advantages of UPnP - music is shipped over your network much the same as other data like files and things you are printing.  There is no clock signal bound up with the data, so there is nothing in the source that can jitter. Only clocks jitter. Data is unequivocal and invariant, and the UPnP protocol transmits the correct clock frequency as data, so it is perfect.

 

You would of course need to use a UPnP capable network player like the NDS/NDX etc.

 

OTOH if you use s/pdif or USB as a way of connecting your computer to your DAC, then jitter may well be an issue, although the nDAC goes to some trouble to minimise the impact of this.

Posted on: 17 December 2012 by spartacus
Originally Posted by Disposable hero:

Hi spartacus, so what did you think about buying blind a Wireworld Supernova 6, if you did do it or are maybe pondering? If you do I will

Not gone for it. Too busy enjoying the music and of course there is a lot of "seasonal" spending going on right now. Although I don't make New Years resolutions I might just add it to my "to do list" for next year but not at a high priority.

Posted on: 17 December 2012 by Guido Fawkes
Originally Posted by likesmusic:

If you use your Mac (or any other pc or computer) as a UPnP server  - ie to serve up music files over ethernet or wifi - then there are not and cannot be any issues with source jitter whatsoever.

 

This is one of the inherent advantages of UPnP - music is shipped over your network much the same as other data like files and things you are printing.  There is no clock signal bound up with the data, so there is nothing in the source that can jitter. Only clocks jitter. Data is unequivocal and invariant, and the UPnP protocol transmits the correct clock frequency as data, so it is perfect.

 

You would of course need to use a UPnP capable network player like the NDS/NDX etc.

 

OTOH if you use s/pdif or USB as a way of connecting your computer to your DAC, then jitter may well be an issue, although the nDAC goes to some trouble to minimise the impact of this.

Ah, but have you read the post on the magical AQ snake-oil cable - unless you spend a fortune on buying such cables ,,, all kinds of serpents will come down your Ethernet and in to your network player ... in fact it will be akin to the end of the world as we know .... a Supernova 6 on the other hand brings peace and tranquility and soothes the savage beast ... no ugh plug and pray (upnp) required ... it just works  

Posted on: 17 December 2012 by likesmusic
Originally Posted by Guido Fawkes:
 

Ah, but have you read the post on the magical AQ snake-oil cable - unless you spend a fortune on buying such cables ,,, all kinds of serpents will come down your Ethernet and in to your network player ... in fact it will be akin to the end of the world as we know .... a Supernova 6 on the other hand brings peace and tranquility and soothes the savage beast ... no ugh plug and pray (upnp) required ... it just works  

Fair enough, I did forget to mention that (imo of course) cds ripped after midnight sound much better than those ripped in the daytime. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to call it a night and day difference. I think this is because the serpents are afraid of the dark. 

Posted on: 17 December 2012 by Iver van de Zand

LoL !!