Mining for obscure prog rock...some surprising finds!

Posted by: Ron Toolsie on 27 November 2012

In the last month or so, I have diverted my musical attentions pretty much to the prog rock genre (and BTW the progarchives.com site is an invaluable resource). I have relatively little of this music in my collection, and then it tends to be the best known (King Crimson, Yes, Wishbone Ash, Rick Wakeman, Renaissance etc). So I decided to dig a little-well actually WAY deeper. 

 

I am still a neophyte so I will not make too many comparisons, but rather share what I consider extremely good but obscure music. One thing I have found, is that it takes sheer *talent* to play prog rock, so it is very difficult to critique it in terms of technique....its main failings as far as I can tell are the vocals which occasionally tend to be oversung and bombastic. 

 

Until I have listened a bit more to the 50 plus artists I have added to my collection I will for now just have to give a few very honorable mentions. 

 

Yezda Urfa.... The best find so far. A band from Illinois (US) that have an uncanny resemblance to Yes in terms of composition, bass playing and very Andersonesque vocals. But I find them rather more melodic than any Yes I have in my collection, and the nonsensical song titles parody the over-serious attitude that many of their contemporaries were guilty of. Dare I say the playing is of an equal or higher virtuosity than that of Yes? There are only two albums...Boris from 1975 and Sacred Baboon from 1976. 

 

The New Trolls- Italian prog rock at its best. The 'Ut' and 'Searching for a Land' albums seem particularly good, and both were released in 1972. 

 

Days- a Danish band from 1972. Only one release as far as I can tell, which is self titled. 

 

The Masters Apprentices- an Aussie band. I have so far only heard their albums Choice Cuts (1972) and a Toast to Panama Red (1972). Expertly crafted and played music. I do wish the albums were mastered better though. 

 

Gryphon-Between 1973 and 1975 they released four albums that are very deeply rooted in olde Englishe Folke and are largely acoustic. Although any of these is excellent, the best is probably their third -Red Queen to Gryphon Three. If you love the folkie side of Mike Oldfield, then this one should impress, and in places sounds very similar to Ommadawn. 

 

Iceberg- some Spanish prog rockers. The 1975 Tutankhamon has the fluid melodies of some of the best Camel. 

 

Other artists I have recently cast an ear to, but have not listened enough to from a definitive opinion but are very promising....Khan, Gnidrolog (In Search of Harry's Toenail!?), Eden Rose, Anglagard, Jan Dukes de Gray, The Lens, Eloy, the Scottish band Hate with the Hate Kills album from 1970

 

And a passing mention to a much better known Prog Rock band-Gentle Giant. Two of their better albums (Octopus and Three Friends) were remastered last year and the sonic results are simply marvelous, as is the music. There is a life, clarity and presence that was entirely stripped from the previous releases. 

Posted on: 03 January 2013 by Ron Toolsie

And maybe a couple more

 

Mellow Candle- from the 1972 album Swaddling Songs. Not strictly prog, but has the feel of some of Renaissances more folky material. The two 'girls' in the band were barely teenagers at the time. 

 

Susan Christie-Paint a Lady (1970). I can see where RLJ got some of her style for half singing/half verbalizing. This is the story of a naive young woman losing some of her innocence. If you listen hard enough you can hear some 'Hey Joe' riffing. 

 

 

Posted on: 05 January 2013 by Ron Toolsie

Denis A

Good recommendation of Panzerpappa...very talented group of musicians. Some of the music is quite complex and would require a few listens to feel at ease, but this is certainly band I shall be exploring. In places the bass player is so funky too!

 

Posted on: 05 January 2013 by DenisA

Hi Ron,

 

I played the Panzerpappa CD for the first time last night and really liked it. This will be on heavy rotation here. Glad you liked it.

 

As you said you liked some Folk in your Prog I'm not sure if you saw my earlier link for Fauns who proclaim they make Folk-Prog from Berlin!

 

I've had the CD for a few weeks now and think it's one of my top buy's of 2012.

 

Album Samples here - http://www.fauns.de/music.htm 

 

Album Teaser - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QovATrRfm9M 

 

Fauns YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/user/faunsmusic?feature=watch 

 

Prog Archives Review - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=37500 

 

"As with the debut, this sophomore recording has 3 ambitious pieces that simply startle and  stun. Two explosive 10 minute epics "The Path" and "A Perfect Place" combine with the 20 minute finale, the luscious "Dawn". They alone define clearly the style and scope of this  original band as described on their website: "The Fauns combine acoustic instruments  with rock appeal, folkloristic influences with elements of progressive rock, melancholic  moments with sound explosions. Flutes, viola and various acoustic guitars interact with  keyboards and electric guitars; complex structures and odd time signatures are an integral  part of the musical style."

 

ATB

 

Denis

 

Posted on: 09 January 2013 by steveb

Some great listening here.  Some artists new to me.

For those who want to explore more then some reading for while you are listening

The Tapestry of Delights-Venon Joynson-the bible for UK music 63-76

Scented Gardens of the Mind-European Prog Rock 68-80, Dag Erik Asbjornson

Prophets and Sages, illustrated guide to underground prog rock 67-75- Mark Powell-runs the wonderful Esoteric Label- release classic prog rock Cd's+some vinyl

http://www.esotericrecordings.com/

Galactic Ramble (UK)UK

Endless Trip (USA)

both edited by Richard Morton Jack, compilation of reviews of albums from music press and comments

Fuzz, Acid and Flowers, American Grunge, Physcedelic and Hippie Rock 63-77, Vernon Joynson- a massive tome some 1500 pages

and for Krautrock Fans

Crack in the Cosmic Egg, Freeman & Freeman, they run the Ultima Thule Record Shop in Leicester-specialising in Krautrock

Cosmic Dreams at Play-Dag Erik Asbjornson

 

Happy listening and reading

Steve

Posted on: 14 January 2013 by JBGWild

One of the many musical pleasures of last year for me was rediscovering the Planet Gong and it's now many off shoots, many of which are still around and making very fine music indeed. Ive bought a lot from their website (which looks a bit iffy but offers a great, prompt service), most of it with really good sq. All recommendations are CD except for Gong's own Zero to Infinity which is on vinyl too. The second really good more recent Gong album worth checking out is 2032, which has some ace Steve Hillage guitar playing on it too. Here & Now's Ufoasis is also superb, great prog rock and then some. For more spacey jazz kinda stuff check out The Invisible Opera Company of Tibets's UFO Planante and the new Violeta de Outono's Espectro. There is a UK Invisible Opera Company of Tibet too (!) and their Live at Sonic Rock Solstice 2011 is rather good too. Another goody is Ici Maintenanis's Space and Time, a fantastic live gig from Glastonbury recorded in 2001. Good music is far from dead!

 

Cheers John

 

Cheers John

Posted on: 15 January 2013 by graham halliwell

For Ron and anyone else interested in obscure prog (and more besides) I think this site is hard to beat:

 

http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.co.uk/

 

at the very bottom of the first page you will see archives going back to 2007.  There is some magnificent stuff here from all over the world.

 

Some of my favourites:

 

Picchio Dal Pozzo (Italy)

Sammlas Mammas Manna (Sweden)

Etron Fou Leloublan (France)

Wha Ha Ha (Japan)

Haniwa Chan (Japan)

Ground Zero (Japan)

Universe Zero (Belgium)

Art Zoyd (France)

Aksak Maboul (Holland/UK)

Henry Cow (UK)

Debile Menthol (Swiss)

 

I think there are examples of all those bands on Youtube and Mutant Sounds.

 

Have fun.

Posted on: 15 January 2013 by Guido Fawkes

Very early prog-rock from 69 from the Writing on the Wall (sounds a little bit Arthur Brown, a little bit Atomic Rooster),