Re-buying your existing music [CDs] at a higher res/def

Posted by: Disposable hero on 04 December 2012

Just curious as to what proportion of an existing CD collection, would Naim owners repurchase their same music held, as higher resolution/ definition downloads?

Would you re-buy all of it, a select batch of cherished albums or none at all?

Posted on: 04 December 2012 by Bart

All of it?  I could buy a 252 and a 300 etc etc for the cost.  Definitely not all of it.

 

I have re-purchased just a few albums on HDTracks.  Really, it's just for the novelty and to see if I can hear the differences.  If a cd is well recorded and well produced, I generally do not get $20.00 worth of enjoyment out of re-purchasing it.

 

But if it's something I don't already own, or a remaster that appears worthwhile, then that is added incentive to buy it in a higher res format.  The Beatles remasters from 2011 are a good example; cherished, not overly happy with the prior cd versions, and they made it available in a higher res, all-digital format. 

Posted on: 04 December 2012 by Guido Fawkes

I have lots of my records in high definition ... they are on vinyl 

 

I'd buy CD upgrades if there was an incentive to so do.

Maybe trade your CD for 24/96 version + a smaller amount of the hard earned., 

Posted on: 04 December 2012 by Disposable hero
Originally Posted by Bart:

I have re-purchased just a few albums on HDTracks.  Really, it's just for the novelty and to see if I can hear the differences.  If a cd is well recorded and well produced, I generally do not get $20.00 worth of enjoyment out of re-purchasing it.

 

So far I've only found a couple of things I'd consider buying on HDTracks, they have Megadeth albums and also it would only be as an introduction to high def to know if there was any spectacular difference. Alas, we in the UK cannot get hold of this if only for the dabble into high def or the novelty.

Posted on: 04 December 2012 by GraemeH

GRRR! So far is my only dabble but it is worth it.  The 'Exile' tracks in particular make me want the whole album.  G

Posted on: 04 December 2012 by winkyincanada

I'd never re-buy anything. I just wouldn't. And the benefits of hi def just aren't big enough (to my cloth ears).

Posted on: 04 December 2012 by Sloop John B

i was at a Naim event in Dublin to bring Naim streaming to the embattled masses and what Doug Graham said  about high res was that a lot of music from the mid 80's to today was (and I'm paraphrasing wildly due to lack of technical knowledge) taped in such a way that remixing (remastering?) at a higher resolution would do nought whereas the recordings from the 50s to early 80s there was enough data there to do a decent high res mastering.

 

So based on this perhaps I wouldn't repurchase Nirvana (cue Guido) but would Blood on the Tracks.

 

 

SJB

Posted on: 04 December 2012 by George Fredrik

Buy the recordings again?

 

No chance. The hires that I heard sounded a fraction different. Not better, just different.

 

No recording sounds quite real, and hires sounded no more real than CD standard ... just different. Perhaps they emphasise that the basic recordings are not capable of the sort of examination that hires may be lending ...

 

ATB from George

Posted on: 05 December 2012 by rjstaines

I would buy a select sub-set of my album collection.  Cash becomes a limiting factor alongside availability, but so far eighty something 24bit albums grace my NAS drive.  But I've learned through bitter experience that a rubbish original encoded to 192/24 sounds even more rubbish, hence the 'sub-set' answer.

 

But I'm all for record companies offering a wider section of their back catalogue in HD. Lots of music lovers will take advantage and lots will poo-poo the idea.  You pays your money... or you doesn't. 

Posted on: 06 December 2012 by Disposable hero

Well now there is the chance for a little dabble in to Naim Apple Lossless high def.

Posted on: 06 December 2012 by james n
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:

I'd never re-buy anything. I just wouldn't. And the benefits of hi def just aren't big enough (to my cloth ears).

+1. I've never found the Hi-Def versions to be worth the extra if i already have it on CD. Meet me in London is fantastic at 24/192 but so is the CD version. 

 

James

Posted on: 06 December 2012 by J.N.

Down the years I've been sucked into buying quite a few remasters, Mo-Fi's, SHM's etc.

 

Guess what? As a general rule, it is my experience that the older the version on CD, the better it sounds - and the best sounding version is still available (used) for peanuts in most cases.

 

HD versions of well established albums seem to be (in the main) sourced from later, inferior sounding remasters.

 

Music re-released in an allegedly higher definition format is of course principally a marketing exercise.

 

As another contributor commented, the very best fidelity and musical coherence is arguably still to had from vinyl - but not new vinyl, which again seems to be generally inferior in terms of surface-noise and recording quality.

 

Which other field of technology is going backwards?

 

John.

Posted on: 06 December 2012 by Guido Fawkes

I've decided i will re-buy lots of music in hi-res to go with the CD, vinyl and cassette then i can spend endless hours of fun trying to figure out which sounds best ... 

Posted on: 06 December 2012 by Adam Meredith
Originally Posted by Guido Fawkes:

I've decided i will re-buy lots of music in hi-res to go with the CD, vinyl and cassette then i can spend endless hours of fun trying to figure out which sounds best ... 

It may seem impertinent but could we get together for double blind comparisons of formats and carriers?

 

It always bugs me when I'm listening to something that there might be a better version somewhere - laughing at me.

 

I could bring around my Dark Side of the Moon library.

Posted on: 06 December 2012 by fasterbyelan
Originally Posted by J.N.:

 

 

Which other field of technology is going backwards?

 

John.

F1 - too many rules 

Posted on: 06 December 2012 by J.N.

"I could bring around my Dark Side of the Moon library."


Oh yeah Adam; me too. A Japanese (Toshiba) 'Black Triangle' would be my pick of the bunch I own. Again - it was an early issue (CP35-3017), which I've not managed to better sonically, with later releases.

 

 

 

John.