2013 F1 Championship.

Posted by: BigH47 on 21 December 2012

For the BBC viewers. 

 

Suzi Perry is announced as the replacement for Jake Humphreys.

 

She is so much better looking.

 

All they need to do is get rid of Eddie J and I might even watch.

Posted on: 24 March 2013 by MilesSmiles
Originally Posted by Tony Lockhart:
Poor, poor show. Anymore team order abuse like that robbing us, the paying fans, of a 'RACE' and I'll finally give up and walk away. Dickheads.

I think there is a place for team orders, but not so early in the season. I wish Nico would have had a chance to challenge Hamilton for the podium. 

Posted on: 24 March 2013 by Tony2011

On a lighter note...I miss you guys!!!

Posted on: 24 March 2013 by Derry

Well it had to happen eventually - F1 becomes a travesty of the travesty it has been for the past 5 years or so.

 

Why would any "fan" with any sense waste his time and money on it. You are being suckered big time.

Posted on: 24 March 2013 by Cbr600
Originally Posted by Tony2011:

On a lighter note...I miss you guys!!!

A missed oportunity. Woudnt it have been great if the pit crew had jacked up the car and made him sit there for a minute befor releasing him 

Posted on: 24 March 2013 by Joe Bibb
Originally Posted by MilesSmiles:

Vettel is fighting for the title, Webber won't. Simples. 

Webber had tuned down as ordered, Vettel didn't.  Nothing 'fighting' in that, just a cheap shot.

Posted on: 24 March 2013 by Joe Bibb
Originally Posted by Derry:

Well it had to happen eventually - F1 becomes a travesty of the travesty it has been for the past 5 years or so.

 

Why would any "fan" with any sense waste his time and money on it. You are being suckered big time.

I'm coming round to that.  Make the cars as best you can, use the tyres and fuel you like and let's have some racing.

Posted on: 24 March 2013 by MilesSmiles
Originally Posted by Cbr600:
Originally Posted by Tony2011:

On a lighter note...I miss you guys!!!

A missed oportunity. Woudnt it have been great if the pit crew had jacked up the car and made him sit there for a minute befor releasing him 

McLaren didn't have a dog in this fight but that would have been quite hilarious. The crew was extremely fast thinking giving him a passage through.

Posted on: 24 March 2013 by Julian H
Originally Posted by Joe Bibb:

let's have some racing.

Well said Joe. I lost interest a couple of years go now. When "proper" racing returns, so will I.

Posted on: 24 March 2013 by fatcat
Originally Posted by Joe Bibb:

I'm coming round to that.  Make the cars as best you can, use the tyres and fuel you like and let's have some racing.

I stopped watching a few years ago. The tyre regulations are ridiculous, I not be watching until that's changed.

Posted on: 24 March 2013 by BigH47

Do you guys really think there has never been team orders before?

 

It's always been there, do you really think MS would have won all those championships without it? All championships use it, AMLS Le Mans , NASCAR, INDY car WTTC, BTTC it's part and parcel of motor sport. 

 

So what has changed? It's LEGAL now! 

 

 

It's a team sport and a certain child broke his teams rules, obviously he knows better than his masters.

Put Buemi for the next race, they can still say well done Seb to him instead.

 

Posted on: 24 March 2013 by fatcat
Originally Posted by MilesSmiles:

I think there is a place for team orders, but not so early in the season. I wish Nico would have had a chance to challenge Hamilton for the podium. 

Nico told Ross he wanted to overtake Lewis, because Lewis was holding him up.

 

Ross told Nico, Lewis was driving at that pace because he'd told him to do so.

Posted on: 24 March 2013 by Julian H
Originally Posted by BigH47:

Do you guys really think there has never been team orders before?

 

It's always been there, do you really think MS would have won all those championships without it? All championships use it, AMLS Le Mans , NASCAR, INDY car WTTC, BTTC it's part and parcel of motor sport. 

 

So what has changed? It's LEGAL now! 

 

 

It's a team sport and a certain child broke his teams rules, obviously he knows better than his masters.

Put Buemi for the next race, they can still say well done Seb to him instead.

 

Team orders are not the reason I don't watch anymore H.

Posted on: 24 March 2013 by MilesSmiles
 
Originally Posted by fatcat:
Originally Posted by MilesSmiles:

I think there is a place for team orders, but not so early in the season. I wish Nico would have had a chance to challenge Hamilton for the podium. 

Nico told Ross he wanted to overtake Lewis, because Lewis was holding him up.

 

Ross told Nico, Lewis was driving at that pace because he'd told him to do so.

Hamilton was low on fuel and couldn't keep up with Nico's pace - Hamilton knows that Nico should have been on the podium and said so at the press conference. The team thinks that Hamilton has a better chance at the championship and didn't want to risk team points, fair enough, although we might see Nico challenging Hamilton a lot more in the next few races.

Posted on: 24 March 2013 by fatcat

Another example of why F1 is a joke.

 

Nico deserved to be on the podium because he's better at managing his fuel.

 

I Hope he does get on the podium. I voted for him in the "Who will win F1" poll the other week.

Posted on: 24 March 2013 by Cbr600

We should remember that F1 is a business first and foremost.

 

Sponsors pay a fortune for their logo on the car and are not happy when it fails or crashes out.

 

Commercial pressures are a higher priority.

 

I say bring back the fuelling and make it more entertaining and add some variables into the mix

Posted on: 24 March 2013 by Tony2011

Over 50 years of F1 and people are still surprised with team order and the occasional hiccup. Webber is no angel folks. Obviously Vettel's memory  is like an elephant's but not so forgiving! Looking forward to the next GP!

Posted on: 24 March 2013 by Derry
Originally Posted by Cbr600:

We should remember that F1 is a business first and foremost.

 

Sponsors pay a fortune for their logo on the car and are not happy when it fails or crashes out.

 

Commercial pressures are a higher priority.

 

I say bring back the fuelling and make it more entertaining and add some variables into the mix

How about reducing the variables and get back to proper racing? (is there an ironycon?)

Posted on: 24 March 2013 by Derry
Originally Posted by Tony2011:

Over 50 years of F1 and people are still surprised with team order and the occasional hiccup. Webber is no angel folks. Obviously Vettel's memory  is like an elephant's but not so forgiving! Looking forward to the next GP!

Bernie loves people like you.

Posted on: 24 March 2013 by Tony2011
Originally Posted by Derry:
Originally Posted by Tony2011:

Over 50 years of F1 and people are still surprised with team order and the occasional hiccup. Webber is no angel folks. Obviously Vettel's memory  is like an elephant's but not so forgiving! Looking forward to the next GP!

Bernie loves people like you.

Bernie is a cunning business man but I do not expect you to understand that and I do admire his handling of F1, althought mistakes have been made.! I do admire the man! 500 years old and still piss you off! Fantastic!

Posted on: 24 March 2013 by MilesSmiles

LOL

Posted on: 24 March 2013 by James L

Vettel = Schumacher.

(Yay?)

Posted on: 24 March 2013 by totemphile
Originally Posted by James L:

Vettel = Schumacher.

(Yay?)

= the devil = bad, wait, no, badder, bad ass!!

 

everyone else = good = innocent = Mansell, Senna, Prost, Hill, Stewart = all angels!!!

 

Wait, no, not the French, just the British, all good!!!

 

I love black and white, no headache, simples 

Posted on: 24 March 2013 by James L

Vettel is still a very young man.

Males don't grow-a-brain until well into their thirties.

 

Webber though should have taken it to Vettel.

Thing is Webber hasn't got the raw talent so out comes the excuse of needing to avoid a conflict and get the car home. If the worst happened and both were taken out then Vettel would think twice in the future about bending Webber over again.  

Posted on: 25 March 2013 by Bruce Woodhouse

Hiding from the snow drifts I watched the BBC highlights, as a generally cynical and mostly ex-F1 watcher. A few thoughts.

 

The faster man/car package won. Is that not what is supposed to happen? I think the Hamilton/Rosberg situation smells far worse; a driver held back because...well because he was told that is how it must be.

 

F1 is interesting when it has a human element. Two drivers who dislike each other going wheel to wheel to win a race is fine by me. Spicey overtaking moves from those two for the rest of the season-fine by me too.

 

If the teams want a sport controlled by the team directors in the pitlane then I suggest they remove the drivers, and let them control the cars remotely from their keyboards like some uber-scalextric.

 

Vettel looked about as sorry as Lance Armstrong.

 

Modern F1 remains a huge contrivance. We seems to have accepted DRS is 'normal' yet it is basically a fiddle. The last 2 seasons have had far too much emphasis on tyres and the 'cliff edge' performance drop is just silly. Making a race exciting by basically making the cars fail to work after a handful of laps is not racing. it is like having a football match where after 15 minutes some players have their ankles tied together on a random basis.

 

How bad would it be if they banned race radio-except for safety announcements? Let drivers manage the race and manage their tyres/fuel and strategy.

 

Bruce

Posted on: 25 March 2013 by BigH47

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