The Forum Ranking System
Posted by: Don Atkinson on 31 December 2012
The Forum Ranking system is a mystery to us all, including Richard.
Hoopless acknowledged back in February 2011 that the point scoring system was a secret. But they failed to mention that the ranking (#1, #2, #3 etc) isn’t directly related to the community points (132,013; 110,945; 67,574 etc). There are plenty of anomalies.
I have plotted the Points (Y axis) against Rank (X axis) for the first 25 members (ok #22 is omitted for obvious reasons) and there are some significant anomalies.
BigH is #1, but there are a few people at #0 which I presume is a more elevated position in the system.
Kuma has the second largest number of Community Points but is Ranked #6
Richard has noticanly fewer points than Adam but is ranked #5 with Adam a miserable #11 (these rankings will no doubt change over time)
Richard (and Hoopless) considers the Ranking and points system to be “a bit of fun”
Is It ?
Or is it some sinister plot to oust Adam and Kuma ?
If I can figure out how to copy and paste my x/y graph here, I will
Cheers
Don
Posted on: 02 January 2013 by Fred Mulder
There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
Posted on: 02 January 2013 by Don Atkinson
Originally Posted by DrMark:
I think Hopeless' policy is, "If we told you, then we'd have to kill you."
If they told us, we'd all die laughing !!
Cheers
Don
Posted on: 02 January 2013 by Don Atkinson
Originally Posted by Mike-B:
Originally Posted by Don Atkinson:
Certainly looks like it Kuma, you've obviously upset Hoopless (gawd another drop in ranking for using that word, no doubt) or upset Adam big-time. Keep hanging in there, i'm sure Richard will come to your rescue if there's ever a risk of you being "expelled"
Kuma's problem is he has some very dodgy speakers and is high on the list for deportation to an obscure place north of Hadrian's Wall
Surprised you didn't upset Jim with that remark Mike.
Cheers
Don
Posted on: 02 January 2013 by James L
I'm a lowly(?) 163 with 15,000 points.
I don't link to social feeds so maybe this has an impact?
"Make your profile even more amazing by linking to your social feeds from Facebook.
Originally Posted by Exiled Highlander:
Despite hardly ever posting here these days I seem to be at #83, well ahead of Fatcat....my New Years resolution is to get to 15,083......
Jim
Posted on: 02 January 2013 by Exiled Highlander
James,
I don't link to social feeds either......I have no desire to do so. My resolution was totally tongue in cheek as I'm sure you figured out anyway.
Cheers
Jim
Posted on: 03 January 2013 by Donuk
What is this "Kuma...... he" business?
This is no way to speak about the First Lady of Hifi!
Or is there something I don't know?
Perhaps this could explain a fall in favour.
don, drab downtown York....
Posted on: 03 January 2013 by Guido Fawkes
Posted on: 03 January 2013 by Don Atkinson
Guido,
Ok, i've read the Hopeless statement once or twice. There are two fundamentals to the rankings; community points and followers.
Hopeless won't (or can't) say what the rationale is behind the accumulation of points or the relationship between followers and points and even Richard has said he has no details. I simply think Hopeless have lost the management file, including how to switch the rankings off.
Kuma's is a position that is a particularly strange position given the number of points he has and the fact that some of those around him have fewer points and zero followers. I only use this as an example, Kuma seems totally relaxed about his decline into immenent exile.
Of course its only a bit of fun, as is this thread. I'm not really paranoid.........
Yet !
Cheers
Don
Posted on: 03 January 2013 by Don Atkinson
Originally Posted by Donuk:
What is this "Kuma...... he" business?
Or is there something I don't know?
don, drab downtown York....
....they didn't tell you....?
Cheers
Don
Posted on: 04 January 2013 by Haim Ronen
Originally Posted by Lontano:
This is my first post since the end of July. I have not been logged in or posted since that time but during my period of absence I went from number 3 to number 2. Go figure.
Proves that quality is far superior to quantity...
Posted on: 05 January 2013 by spartacus
Can the points be traded in against equipment? If so I've got no chance
Posted on: 05 January 2013 by Don Atkinson
Originally Posted by spartacus:
Can the points be traded in against equipment? If so I've got no chance
What a brilliant idea !!!
£10 worth for each 100 points would be nice. 
Paul ?
Cheers
Don
Posted on: 05 January 2013 by Cbr600
Originally Posted by spartacus:
Can the points be traded in against equipment? If so I've got no chance
You could cash them in for a set of genuine Naim fuses !
LOL
Posted on: 06 January 2013 by Guido Fawkes
I like the idea of trading points for kit ....
Don
I didn't understand the hoopla definition either ... apparently I'm #3, but was hoping I was #6.
At least I now know who is #1.
Alternatively #86 is a good number, but then I'd be wondering who is #99?
Still I'd have toi be Smart to figure that out.
I suspect Hopeless has a highly scientific way of calculating these numbers and by cross referencing them with other factors can work things about us we don't even know ourselves.
All the best, Guy
Posted on: 06 January 2013 by Haim Ronen
I keep loosing ground in ranking, probably being punished for zero upgrading in my twelve years ownership of a modest NAIM system. What I need is a LoFi corner.
Posted on: 06 January 2013 by DrMark
Originally Posted by Haim Ronen:
I keep loosing ground in ranking, probably being punished for zero upgrading in my twelve years ownership of a modest NAIM system. What I need is a LoFi corner.
Don't let them bully you - your system is a really nice, well-matched set of kit. In fact, you should post a pic on the system pics thread if you haven't already.
Posted on: 06 January 2013 by Cbr600
Don't be greedy Haim, No 28 out of several thousand is pretty impressive
Posted on: 06 January 2013 by winkyincanada
I think my ranking would be higher if I wasn't as much of a prick.
Posted on: 06 January 2013 by Steve J
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:
I think my ranking would be higher if I wasn't as much of a prick.
Phallus Dei my friend.
Posted on: 06 January 2013 by Cbr600
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:
I think my ranking would be higher if I wasn't as much of a prick.
In answer to both those elements ------ size isn't important
Its not what you've got , but what you do with it !!
Or so they say
Posted on: 06 January 2013 by EJS
Originally Posted by Haim Ronen:
I keep loosing ground in ranking, probably being punished for zero upgrading in my twelve years ownership of a modest NAIM system. What I need is a LoFi corner.
Haim, I'm #27 and slowly dropping as well - and I don't have a single Naim component in my system... the fact that we're still relatively high must be due to the quality of the music!
EJ
Posted on: 06 January 2013 by spartacus
Originally Posted by Guido Fawkes:
I suspect Hopeless has a highly scientific way of calculating these numbers and by cross referencing them with other factors can work things about us we don't even know ourselves.
All the best, Guy
Seems to me that it's at least as complex as Google's search engine ranking and they probably change the criteria as frequently. As with Google, it probably makes no sense at all once you are past the "Google local" results and the to 20 positions.
But it's not worth getting into "FPO" (Forum Post Optimisation) unless they start letting us trade points for kit though.
Posted on: 06 January 2013 by DrMark
"But it's not worth getting into "FPO" (Forum Post Optimisation) unless they start letting us trade points for kit though."
Posted on: 07 February 2014 by Mike-B
Sorry to raise it again, but I'm bored & waiting for some paint to dry & paint drying reminded me ......... about the hopeless community & activity points system
- after all this time I see its fixed - not
Just take the most active 12 members list 1st to 12th
Kuma 139,551
Lontano 122,294
BigH47 154,620
Richard Dane 75,474
MilesSmiles 91,916
Hook 66,583
Simon-i-S 53,094
bazz 57,227
Julian H 54,099
osprey 106,000
Polarbear 52,870
Christopher_M 82,712
Look around other examples & its all over the place
To quote the pop-up on this "In general, the more active you are, the more activity points you will earn" Some haven't contributed for months, some haven't even got Naim equipment
My point is either get it right or get shot of it
Posted on: 07 February 2014 by hungryhalibut
I wonder whether all posts are equal. For example, whether posting that one is listening to DSOTM for the umpteenth time in the music room is as valuable as reviewing an album or helping someone out. I see that you get more points for liking things, though I'm not sure if one of one's own posts is more valuable. Not that it matters of course.....
